This is an extension of the thread from a few years ago that just compared to the 96, 2008, and 2012 teams as far as more talented, most style, and most accomplished. 2016 should obviously now be added to this discussion, but I would like to throw in 2004 which I believe is an excellent and highly underrated team, who just had things screwed up by injuries and Marta. So how would you rate these 5 against each other in most talented, most stylish, and most accomplished. Here would be my picks.
Most accomplished- For me the winner in this is now the 2016 team. They have 27 individual world and Olympic medals, which ties the 2008 team with 27 individual world and Olympic medals. I give one edge to the 2008 team in being less dominated by one gymnast here, with Nastia having 11 of their 27, but Simone 16 of the 2016 team's 27. However that is overcome by the 2016 team holding 5 straight world/Olympic AA titles, including both Olympic AA titles. They also hold 5 straight world/Olympic floor titles, including the 2012 and 2016 Olympic floor titles. They had 2 gymnasts return to the team and win Olympic Team Gold again, and each be part of the pre Olympic World title winning teams this in 2 straight quads too. Overall they just best the 2008 team in overall achievements already and they probably arent even done with Laurie likely to add to the haul.
2008 obviously is 2nd best here.
3rd best I would give narrowly to the 2012 team over the 1996 team now. The 2012 has 17 individual world and Olympic medals- 6 for Raisman , 4 for Ross, 3 for Maroney, 2 for Douglas, and 2 for Wieber. Team 1996 has 17 with 11 for Miller, 4 for Dawes, 1 for Chow, 1 for Moceanu. The 2012 team did this with only 5 gymnasts though, the 1996 team managed this with 7. Quite likely on a 7 women team in 2012 you have Alicia Sacramone who bumps the medal total way up beyond the 96 Mag 7. Furthermore the 96 team is too Miller heavy, which I mentioned in comparing the 2016 to 2008 teams as well, but this case ever more severely as you have only 2 gymnasts (Miller and Dawes) with multiple individual medals, and the other (Dawes) has no world/Olympic AA medals or individual golds. The 2012 team has both an Olympic and World AA Champion on it, an Olympic floor champion and Olympic AA medalist (albeit later on), a 2 time World AA medalist, and the sports dominant vaulter for a few years. The one narrow edge I see the 96 team having is 6 individual World/Olympic golds (all Miller's) vs only 5 for the 2012 team. I think overall the 2012 team soundly trumps the 96 team in sheer accomplishments, despite both having 17 individual World/Olympic medals.
2004 is obviously last here.
So in achievements:
1. 2016 U.S team
2. 2008 U.S team
3. 2012 U.S team
4. 1996 U.S team
5. 2004 U.S team
I will post my thoughts on the other 2 categories later.
womens teams- 96, 04, 08, 2012, 2016- most talented, most style, most accomplished
Most accomplished- For me the winner in this is now the 2016 team. They have 27 individual world and Olympic medals, which ties the 2008 team with 27 individual world and Olympic medals. I give one edge to the 2008 team in being less dominated by one gymnast here, with Nastia having 11 of their 27, but Simone 16 of the 2016 team's 27. However that is overcome by the 2016 team holding 5 straight world/Olympic AA titles, including both Olympic AA titles. They also hold 5 straight world/Olympic floor titles, including the 2012 and 2016 Olympic floor titles. They had 2 gymnasts return to the team and win Olympic Team Gold again, and each be part of the pre Olympic World title winning teams this in 2 straight quads too. Overall they just best the 2008 team in overall achievements already and they probably arent even done with Laurie likely to add to the haul.
2008 obviously is 2nd best here.
3rd best I would give narrowly to the 2012 team over the 1996 team now. The 2012 has 17 individual world and Olympic medals- 6 for Raisman , 4 for Ross, 3 for Maroney, 2 for Douglas, and 2 for Wieber. Team 1996 has 17 with 11 for Miller, 4 for Dawes, 1 for Chow, 1 for Moceanu. The 2012 team did this with only 5 gymnasts though, the 1996 team managed this with 7. Quite likely on a 7 women team in 2012 you have Alicia Sacramone who bumps the medal total way up beyond the 96 Mag 7. Furthermore the 96 team is too Miller heavy, which I mentioned in comparing the 2016 to 2008 teams as well, but this case ever more severely as you have only 2 gymnasts (Miller and Dawes) with multiple individual medals, and the other (Dawes) has no world/Olympic AA medals or individual golds. The 2012 team has both an Olympic and World AA Champion on it, an Olympic floor champion and Olympic AA medalist (albeit later on), a 2 time World AA medalist, and the sports dominant vaulter for a few years. The one narrow edge I see the 96 team having is 6 individual World/Olympic golds (all Miller's) vs only 5 for the 2012 team. I think overall the 2012 team soundly trumps the 96 team in sheer accomplishments, despite both having 17 individual World/Olympic medals.
2004 is obviously last here.
So in achievements:
1. 2016 U.S team
2. 2008 U.S team
3. 2012 U.S team
4. 1996 U.S team
5. 2004 U.S team
I will post my thoughts on the other 2 categories later.
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