Tumbling/tramp experts?

Sorry to start a new post and one in the wrong forum (come on, there's one solitary thread in the acro forum..)

But is anyone here also a tramp/tumbling expert? The European Champs are starting today in my city, and I would like to ask someone a few questions for a local uni publication.

Tumbling/tramp experts?

Cottbus World Cup 2016

Qualifying starts today, Finals on Saturday and Sunday.

List of participants (hasn't been updated for a week, e.g. Adlerteg is still on it): http://ift.tt/1RrOp8t

Notable: China with 6 MAG and 4 WAG gymnasts, Louis Smith, Diego Hypolito, nice Swiss and German MAG teams, Oleg Verniaiev, Sophie Scheder and Pauline Schäfer, Noel van Klaveren, Sanne Wevers, Marta PK, Angelina Kysla, Chuso

Quick Hits for all days of competition: http://ift.tt/1SoERHJ

Stream for Finals will be at this website: http://ift.tt/1skIgwO
There'll probably be some TV streams, too.

Cottbus World Cup 2016

Biles and Douglas to both continue elite after Rio?

I don't know about the rest of you but I am getting the impression that Biles and Douglas will both probably end up continuing with elite after Rio. What do you think.

Biles and Douglas to both continue elite after Rio?

Rio Injury Thread: "Abandon All Hope, Ye Who Enter Here"

Recently, it's been a cruel few weeks to gymnasts and gym fans. The Gym Gods have claimed quite a few victims and even starting an 'injury thread' seems to be tempting fate to add to the list. Nonetheless, they're happening despite the ritual sacrifices I've been offering to Mt. Olympus.

Please add to the list. These a few recently, off the top of my head.

Confirmed
WAG
Joanna Alderteg -- meniscus, out of Rio, http://ift.tt/1Rry2sv (03/29/16)
Roxana Popa -- meniscus, out of Rio http://ift.tt/1Rry2sw (03/28/16)
Larisa Iordache -- fractured finger, out of Test Event, can qualify to Rio if Romania qualifies full team or nominates her as individual if they don't.
Bailie Key -- abdominal muscle strain, hoping to return by the U.S. domestic selection process.
Viktoria Komova -- back pain, http://ift.tt/1ZMfLbv (03/30/16), hopes to return soon.
Mez Monckton -- ACL
María Paula Vargas -- shoulder/rotator cuff, out of Rio because she misses qualifying as an individual at the Test Event.
Nia Dennis -- achilles tendon rupture
Kim Janas -- dislocated elbow

MAG
Fabi Hambuchen -- shoulder, out of Test Event, Germany looking to qualify full team, http://ift.tt/1Rry1Vq (03/30/16)
Epke Zonderland -- shoulder, out of Test Event, Netherlands looking to qualify full team, http://ift.tt/1ZMfLbx (03/29/16)
Jon Horton -- shoulder/rotator cuff, out of Rio
Yang Hak Seon -- achilles tendon rupture
Marvin Kimble -- back pain


Questionable/Unknown
WAG
Anamaria Ocolisan
Yao Jinnah
Norah Flatley
Madison Kocian
Ekaterina Sokova

MAG
Chris Brooks

Returned
WAG

MAG

Rio Injury Thread: "Abandon All Hope, Ye Who Enter Here"

US Nationals seating question

Delurking to ask a quick question:

If I want to have a good view of beam at nationals, what sections should I be looking at? The seating chart shows only the men's apparatus setup. Presumably the beam goes where pommels/still rings are, but I've never been to a meet before so I'm not sure.

Thanks in advance for your help!

US Nationals seating question

4 year fans and artistry

I have had countless conversations with 4 year fans and parents of gymnasts. Each one of them has complained about the lack of artistry. They are impressed with the gymnasts ability but miss the "pretty" part of gymnastics. Has the push to appeal to the X-games crowd backfired?

4 year fans and artistry

Help With Birthdate Discrepencies?

Hey guys, I was wondering if someone could help me out.

I have two birthdates listed for 1985 World Team Alternate Dana Dumitru of Romania - one being January 1, 1970, and the other in July, 1967. Does anyone know which date is correct?

Also, I have one birthdate for 1994 Romanian National Team Member Simona Mocanu saying she was born April, 1980, but with no specific date. The other lists her as March 25, 1979. Does anyone know which of these is right?

Lastly, IG mentions a 1987 Romanian National Team member named Aurelia Sidon for Romania, but then the 1987 Team Alternate for Romania is Mirela Sidon. Are these two different girls or the same person? And what is her/their birthdates?

Thanks in advance.

Help With Birthdate Discrepencies?

Madalina Blendea

Anyone knows what happened to her? I know she retired but nothing more. It's a terrible shame, because she was hailed as the Mustafina of Romanian gymnastics. And with her many of the other Deva girls also disappeared and faded...

Madalina Blendea

„From Glory Days“ – Tatiana Gutsu

Maybe this have been posted here before (If so I apologise for the spam) but I have never seen this before.
I think it´s a nice interview with her, at least I enjoyed it so I hope you do too :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0wDDk08uuo

„From Glory Days“ – Tatiana Gutsu

1992 Olympics Uneven Bars Final

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMmxvixQ89w

I randomly stumbled upon this final while trying to see the changes from 1984 to 1988 to 1992 in bars.

There's a lot I had forgotten about this that is so weird to me.

1. WTH is with Gutsu scoring higher than Miller?! Her routine was clearly not better. Her technique was way more messy.

2. Oh my god, back in the day when Romanians killed it on bars.

3. Seriously these days the Chinese don't get enough credit for literally being the most innovative team to ever get on bars. This is just spectacularly different, unique, magnificent bars work in a time when everyone was doing basically the same routine with slight variations.

4. It really strikes me now watching back on any final pre 2005-2008 quad how much the handstand focus changed bars. I actually appreciate that a lot. At the time I don't know that I thought it was such a massive change. To me it really made bars stunningly beautiful when done well. The handstand emphasis just puts an exclamation point on technique.

5. There's so many routines here that had less than a tenth of deduction that just don't look that way to me. Judges were REALLY generous about not deducting ugly arching, bad technique, and really seemed to care only about how the landing of dismounts ended up. Everything else was kind of meh if you keep your legs together and get through your routine and its from 10 you'll get in the 9.9 range.

1992 Olympics Uneven Bars Final

2016 Pacific Rim Championships - April 8-10

http://ift.tt/1XR2zjU

USA Gymnastics announced the international fields for all gymnastics disciplines. Only the US women's artistic remains to be decided besides Simone Biles.

Women’s gymnastics

Senior
Australia: Georgia-Rose Brown, Emily Little, Larrissa Miller, Rianna Mizzen, Mary-Anne Monckton, Emma Nedov, Emily Whitehead
Canada: Shallon Olsen, Kirsten Peterman, Megan Roberts, Brittany Rogers, Meixi Semple, Rose-Kaying Woo
Chile: Melany Cabrera, Makarena Pinto
Colombia: Yurany Avendano, Ginna Escobar, Marcela Sandoval
Costa Rica: Heika del Sol Salas Castro, Ivanka Victory Arroyo
Ecuador: Giulianna Pino Alcivar
Hong Kong: Tsz Sum Elizabeth Chan, Nim Yan Choi, Sau Chung Kwan, Yan Yin Ng
Honduras: Kaisa Chirinos
Japan: Nagi Kajita
Mexico: Cassandra Loustalot, Mariana Vazquez
New Zealand: Courtney McGregor, Mackenzie Slee, Charlotte Sullivan
Panama: Valentina Brostella Arias
Singapore: Colette Chan, Janessa Min Yi, Nadine Joy Nathan, Sze En Tan, Qiyan Zeng

Junior
Colombia: Paula Arevalo, Ximena Quintana, Juliana Villa
Costa Rica: Luciana Alvarado Reid, Camila Montoya Jimenez, Franciny Morales Barquero
Hong Kong: Cheuk Lam Chan, Ho Yat Cheung
Japan: Natsumi Hanashima, Soyoka Hanawa, Kiko Kuwajima, Mana Oguchi
Mexico: Paulina Aranda, Louise Lopez, Jimena Moreno, Jazibe Sandoval
New Zealand: Stella Ashcroft, Estella Mathewson
Singapore: Celeste Pei Lu Tong
Chinese Taipei: Ko Ching Fang, Pin Ju Lai


Men’s gymnastics

Senior
Australia: Scott Costin, Michael Mercieca, Mitchell Morgans, Christopher Remkes, Luke Wadsworth, Luke Wiwatowski
Canada: Damien Cachia, Justin Karstadt, Aaron Mah, Scott Nabata, Samuel Paquin, Sam Zakutney
Chile: Daniel Basilio, Ignacio Pizarro
China: Weifeng Cai, Baisen Gu, Xuwei Hu, Jile Mu, Xiaoming Wu, Jingyuan Zou
Colombia: Jossimar Calvo, Jorge Girgaldo, Andres Martinez
Costa Rica: Tarik Soto Byfield
Hong Kong: Man Hin Jim, Man Hin Frankie Lee
Japan: Naoki Yamane, Yujiro Terachi
Mexico: Molina Romero
New Zealand: David Bishop, Devy Dyson, Callum Phillips
Philippines: Rafael Ablaza, Rexland Capellon, Jag Owyhn Timbang
Chinese Taipei: Mao-Hua Chiu, Ko-Chiang Huang, Shin-Tung Hung

Junior
Chile: Francisco Perez, Ignacio Varas
Colombia: Manuel Martinez, David Toro, Michael Vargas
Costa Rica: Francisco Antonio Acuña Flaqué
Hong Kong: O Long Andrew Fung, Feng Julian Mui, Ka Ki Ng, Chun Hei Vincent Wong
Japan: Kanta Amano, Ryosuke Doi, Ryuto Sako, Kosuke Wakasa
New Zealand: Ethan ****
Philippines: Mathew Vergara, Carlos Edriel Yulo
Chinese Taipei: Ashih-Yen Fang, Yo-Jan Shiao

2016 Pacific Rim Championships - April 8-10

2106 Doha World Cup

Qualification Results

WAG

VAULT
1 536 STEINGRUBER Giulia SUI 1 2
6.200 5.000
9.000 9.100
15.200 14.100
14.650 Q
2 533 BELAK Teja SLO 1 2
5.300 5.300
8.950 8.950
14.250 14.250
14.250 Q
3 518 KOVACS Zsofia HUN 1 2
5.800 4.200
9.250 8.900
15.050 13.100
14.075 Q
4 540 TORRES Marcela SWE 1 2
5.400 5.200
8.750 8.750
14.150 13.950
14.050 Q
5 534 KYSSELEF Tjasa SLO 1 2
5.300 5.000
8.650 8.600
0.3 13.650 13.600
13.625 Q
6 503 NEKRASOVA Marina AZE 1 2
5.000 4.600
8.700 8.850
13.700 13.450
13.575 Q
7 515 AFRATI Argyro GRE 1 2
4.800 5.000
8.700 8.750
0.3 13.200 13.750
13.475 Q
8 523 TAN ING Yueh MAS 1 2
4.800 5.200
8.450 8.450
13.250 13.650
13.450 Q

UNEVEN BARS
1 541 ADLERTEG Jonna SWE 6.600 8.400 15.000 Q
2 507 ANDRADE Rebeca BRA 6.000 8.500 14.500 Q
3 518 KOVACS Zsofia HUN 5.900 8.450 14.350 Q
4 527 MARTINS Filipa POR 5.600 8.500 14.100 Q
5 530 BULIMAR Diana Laura ROU 5.500 8.150 13.650 Q
6 516 MILLOUSI VasilikiGRE 5.200 8.400 13.600 Q
7 515 AFRATI Argyro GRE 5.400 8.050 13.450 Q
8 531 VULCAN Dora-Gabriela ROU 5.000 8.400 13.400 Q

BALANCE BEAM
1 532 PONOR Catalina ROU 6.000 8.650 14.650 Q
2 536 STEINGRUBER Giulia SUI 5.800 8.450 14.250 Q
509 BAI Yawen CHN 5.600 8.600 14.200 Q 4
506 LEE DE ARAUJO Thauany BRA 6.100 8.100 14.200 Q
5 516 MILLOUSI Vasiliki GRE 5.900 8.000 13.900 Q
6 527 MARTINS Filipa POR 5.600 8.250 13.850 Q
7 508 LUO Huan CHN 5.400 8.300 13.700 Q
8 518 KOVACS Zsofia HUN 5.600 8.050 13.650 Q

FLOOR EXERCISE
1 536 STEINGRUBER Giulia SUI 6.000 8.700 14.700 Q
2 537 KAESLIN Ilaria SUI 5.500 8.450 13.950 Q
3 518 KOVACS Zsofia HUN 5.500 8.350 13.850 Q
4 530 BULIMAR Diana Laura ROU 5.500 8.300 0.1 13.700 Q
5 510 XU Chujun CHN 5.400 8.250 13.650 Q
6 515 AFRATI Argyro GRE 5.500 8.200 0.1 13.600 Q
7 513 VOSS Sarah GER 5.300 8.250 13.550 Q
8 531 VULCAN Dora-Gabriela ROU 5.100 8.450 0.1 13.450 Q

Complete WAG and MAG results can be found here:
http://ift.tt/22ygXUQ

2106 Doha World Cup

Are Laurie and Maggie competing for the same Olympic spot?

Look, I won't hide the fact that I'm BORED by Maggie's gymnastics. That said, do you all think they're essentially competing for the same spot?

Let's say the team is built around Simone and Gabby (99% true), would Laurie be the third AA? 2 specialist spots?

Are Laurie and Maggie competing for the same Olympic spot?

Yang Hak Seon Ruptures Achilles

Injuries claim another one. He's unlikely to recover in time for Rio.

http://ift.tt/1UaNR9w

This one really sucks. He won't be able to defend his Olympic vault title. I was really looking forward to the two Koreas going head to head again.

Yang Hak Seon Ruptures Achilles

Was Kristi Phillips ever really that good

I don't mean to be harsh but I enjoy looking back at the times of gymnastics that I was mostly too young for in real time, and all the access on youtube makes it now easy to do so. I can now see there was a TON of hype on Kristi Phillips in the U.S, with some even hyping her to succeed MLR as the next U.S Olympic AA Champion. Really was she ever that great though. She competed at 1 worlds and placed 45th in all around individual scoring, not even making the top 3 Americans to qualifying into the individual All Around (on a squad that was led by girls who either didn't make the 88 Olympic team or barely did like Marlowe). She was always very weak on bars, weak on compulsories on everything but maybe beam. Her only standout event ever was beam. Her decline and missing the team in 88 was sad, but she should never have been hyped to that level. I think even a top 10 All Around finish even if she managed to peak for Seoul would have been the absolute best realistic for her. Back then there were 12 scores that counted towards the final all around totals (8 halved, the 8 team scores, 4 full). Her compulsory bars score even at her best would probably be low enough to already mathematically put her beneath the AA final scores of people like Silivas, Shushunova, Dobre at their best (probably like a 9.2, making her max already down to a 79.6, lower than those girls typically score).

Was Kristi Phillips ever really that good

Auburn Qualifiers

5280 Gymnastics
Accel
Aerial Athletics
AIM Athletics
Airborne
All American – Utah
All Stars
American Twisters
Arete
Atlantic Coast
Auburn
Discover
Empire
Elite Gymnastics
Euro Stars
GAR
Genie's Gymnastics
GMGC
Gymnastics Olympica
Gymnastix
Hopes And Dreams NE
Iarov Elite
Iowa Gym-Nest
Jersey Shore Elite
Legacy Elite
Naperville
NE Texas Elite
Oakland Gymnastics
Olympus
Paragon Gymnastics
Peak Gymnastics MI
Pearland Elite
Poway Gymnastics
Precision Gymnastics
Premier Gymnastics
Rebound Gymnastics
RGA
San Mateo
Stars Gymnastics
Top Notch
TumbleBees
United Elite
Universal Gymnastics
Will-Moor
Winner's Gymnastics
World Class
Zenith Elite

Auburn Qualifiers

have you seen these movies?

There were biographical films made about Nadia Comaneci and Gabby Douglas, but have any of you seen a film called "Gymkata" (with Kurt Thomas), and "American Anthem" (with Mitch Gaylord, which was on last weekend? I guess that because they did so well at Olympics somebody thought up the idea to make film stars out of them. Don't think it really worked, but it was good to see them both, anyway--

have you seen these movies?

JR compulsory qualifiers

JR comp
Ciena Alipio
Meleah Bell
Skye Blakely
Sloane Blakely
Emma Boyd
Brooke Butler
Sophia Butler
KaylaDiCello
Olivia Dunne
Gabrielle Dildy
Cornelia Eksteen
Frida Esparza
Baleigh Garcia
Sophia Groth
Annie Gruner
Hannah Hagle
Madeleine Johnston
Anneliese Koenig
Madelynn LaCoe
Emily Lee
Kelsey Lee
Lauren Letzsch
Taylor Lehman
Kyrie Lowe
Isabel Mabanta
Cameron Machado
AmberMcArthur
Laney Madsen
Deiah-Marie Moody
Maya Page
Ava Piedrahita
Ariel Posen
Lyndsey Rudolph
Genevieve Sabado-Baez
Jamison Sears
Victoria Smirnov
Kalyany Steele
Morgan Trevor
Madelyn Williams
Samantha Wu
Mia Viola
Amanda Zeng
Corinne Bunagan

JR compulsory qualifiers

Hopes fully qualified to classics

10/11All
Love Birt
Skye Blakely
Haley Havenor
Anneliese Koenig
Kelsey Lee
Arianna Pretty
12/13All
Ciena Alipio
Meleah Bell
Sloane Blakely
Chase Brock
KaylaDiCello
Olivia Dunne
Addison Fatta
Danae Fletcher
EMjae Frazier
Gabrielle Gallentine
Annie Gruner
Taylor Hipolito
Madeleine Johnston
Carina Jordan
Lillian Lippeatt
Madelynn LaCoe
AmberMcArthur
EmilliMcCormack
Deiah-Marie Moody
Brenna Neault
Ava Piedrahita
Anya Pilgrim
Genevieve Sabado-Baez
Danielle Sievers
Morgan Trevor
Possibly to to Elite
Hopes50+
Cael Bixler
Emma Grace Boyd
Brooke Butler
Cosette Carranza
Hanna Castillo
Gabrielle Dildy
Nicole Dillis
Kylie Eaquinto
Baleigh Garcia
Anapaula Gutierrez
Jimena Gutierrez
Hannah Hagle
Olivia Holligsworth
Hailey John
Kaytlyn Johnson
Hannah Joyner
Emma Kelley
Alonna Kratzer
Emily Lee
Autumn Lull
Isabel Mabanta
Amber McArthur
Elizabeth Moore
Kaylen Morgan
Libby Mosley
Madison Rau
Mya Robinson
Victoria Smirnov
Kalyany Steele
Calvary Swaney
Amanda Zeng
Likely to qualify to Elite
Hopes 52+
Sophia Groth
Maeve Hahn
Lauren Letzsch
Cameron Machado
Konnor McClain
Riley McCusker
Reese Samuelson

Hopes fully qualified to classics

Jr 's fully qualified to classics

jr All
Alyssa Al-Ashari
Irina Alexeeva
Jordan Bowers
Aria Brusch
Chae Campbell
Audrey davis
Kinsey Davis
Jaylene Gilstrap
Lilly Hudson
Kiya Johnson
Adeline Kenlin
Eliana Lazzari
Sunisa Lee
Lauren Little
Jaymes Marshall
Abigail Scanlon

Jr 's fully qualified to classics

Hopes Compulsory qualifiers so far

10-11 Comp
Carley Deaver
Nazstazia Jubitana
Emma Kelley
Ava Mabanta
12/13 Comp
Elizabeth Barber
Samara Buchanan
Ella Chemotti
Tatiana Corujo
Ariana Delgado
Karis German
Marissa Jencks
Karina Kolakowski
Alonna Kratzer
Ashley Lane
Logan Lombardi
Victoria Loomis
Mallory Marcheli
Sydney Morris
Megan Sapp
Jensen Scalzo
Ashtin Stutsman
Sarah Stewart
Claire Tunnell
Jamie Wright
Rhiannon Will
34-35 Compulsory
Cael Bixler
Chase Brock
Madison Carr
Daniela Castillo
Jenna Daugherty
Vanessa Deniz
Nicole Dillis
Danae Fletcher
Reaia Floyd
Kenzie Ford
Gianna Gerdes
Mariah Gonzalez
Gracie Higgs
Taylor Hipolito
Ava Mabanta
Kathleen Ours
Anya Pilgrim
Adeline Sabados
Ava Siegfeldt
Jaelah Warner
Kathryn Weilbacher
Bryce Wilson
Ashlin Williams

Hopes Compulsory qualifiers so far

does anybody remember?

Many years ago, I remember seeing on television "professional" gymnastics competitions (or at least one). I think it was in the Kurt Thomas/Bart Conner era, but don't quote me. Obviously it didn't catch on. Then there was the "USA Versus the World" competitios. Then there were those international competitions (I don't know how "international" these were, but I remember Boguinskaya appearing in one of them). The prize for the winner was a guitar (?). Does anybody remember these competitions?

does anybody remember?

Question Aout 1980s Romanian Gymnasts

Question Aout 1980s Romanian Gymnasts

I was going through some of my old gymnastics stuff I've saved over the years, trying to condense things, and I noticed that I apparently have two birthdates listed for 1985 Romanian World Team Alternate Dana Dumitru. According to some sources she was born January 1, 1970 and on other lists it's a different date in 1967. Does anyone know which birthdate is correct? (And where did you find the right one?) And do you have any other info about her, like her club or other details about her career?

Also, IG Magazine mentioned the 1987 World Team Alternate was a girl named Mirela Sidon, but in another Romanian special earlier in the year (it's on the back of a poster), they mentioned National Team at the time and talked about a girl named Aurelia Sidon. Are these the same gymnasts or two different ones, and does anyone know their birthdate(s?) and anything else about them?

Thanks in advance.

Question Aout 1980s Romanian Gymnasts

Artur Akopyan & Galina Marinova Respond

http://ift.tt/1M6Ov54

Unfortunately I think they missed Maroney's overall point.

Artur Akopyan & Galina Marinova Respond

Who's up for the wildcards?

This is probably way too early to be speculating this; this is probably a better question post-Test Event. But, given what we know about different gymnasts and federations, who do you think is possibly in the running for an IOC wildcard?

Who's up for the wildcards?

is gymnastics really a sport?

I remember reading on line comments about the last world championships in ice skating (can't really call it "figure" skating any more because figures are no longer part of the competition); somebody said skating isn't really a sport because it is subjective (judges' opinions) and not "objective" (first one over the finish line wins, for example). That made me think--is that person's opinion right or wrong? I see very little "art" in gymnastics any more, but then if gymnastics isn't a sport, then what is it? I remember years ago at the time of the Barcelona Olympics, a co-worker of mine (a man, of course), made a nasty remark about Oksana Skaldina and her nasty attitude toward the Spanish Rhythmic competitor who defeated her, and then he mocked the idea that "twirling a ribbon" was hardly a sport, in his opinion. I knew he was teasing me, though I am sure he meant what he said. I just answered him back in a similar vein, "YOU try it!" What are your thoughts--sport or art? Both or neither?

is gymnastics really a sport?

2016 Jesolo Trophy

I don't think we have a thread for this yet.

Anyway, the US girls are leaving for Italy today. Chellsie Memmel is going as a judge!

Meanwhile, the Brazilians are already there.



Rebeca Andrade made it, so yay!

Loving Alexadrov's grumpy, Russian face.

And how hilarious is Flavia's oversize jacket?

2016 Jesolo Trophy

Podkopayeva vs Shushunova vs Liukin vs Miller

How do these 4 particular gymnasts rank against each other all time. My order would be:

1. Shushunova
2. Miller
3. Podkopayeva
4. Liukin

Although I could also possibly see: 1. Miller, 2. Shushunova, 3. Podkopayeva, 4. Liukin or also 1. Shushunova, 2. Podkopayeva, 3. Miller, 4. Liukin

I have no doubts Liukin ranks the lowest in history of those 4 for myself personally. I could see a case for Miller either being above Shushunova or below Podkopayeva, but really none for Podkopayeva being over Shushunova unless one really values artistic impact heavily.

Podkopayeva vs Shushunova vs Liukin vs Miller

2004 Olympic Champion Naoya Tsukahara Retires

http://ift.tt/24W20e7

Aw, this is a little sad because I grew up watching him. Naoya Tsukahara has decided to retire for good after not being selected for the Rio Test Event.

He competed at three Olympics for Japan (1996, 2000, 2004) and was part of the 2004 team that won team gold for the first time since 1976. He became an Australian citizen in 2012 and competed for Australia at the 2014 Commonwealth Games and World Championships 2013-2015.

At least he managed to get three eponymous skills on rings in the CoP during the Aussie portion of his career.

2004 Olympic Champion Naoya Tsukahara Retires

Ostapenko Interview

Kylan on TAAF translated an interview with Ostapenko. He said Kylie Dickson should/would represent BLR at the test event. He sees videos of her work often and says she has improved quite a bit since Glasgow. He also said that none of the BLR gymnasts came close to what the two Americans had to offer. I can't post links with this laptop, but surely I'm not the only one here on TAAF.

Ostapenko Interview

If Isabela Onyshko wins in Rio...

What do we think? How great of a gymnast does that make her? Best Canadian of all time? Does she surpass Elfi?

If Isabela Onyshko wins in Rio...

If Gabby Douglas wins in Rio...

Hear me out.

If I were a betting person, I'd have no safer bet than putting money on Simone winning the AA in Rio. It's seems like it's been her story for a long time; everything building up to this. I really think that she will come out on top this summer.

However.

Gabby has been setting herself up as the one who is chasing Simone this year. I don't think she will be able to beat Simone on Simone's average good day, but if Simone had issues, Gabby would be the one to go above her, not Iordache. Gabby has the ability to put up some really solid gymnastics that any other year would have her on top of the podium.

So let's say Simone has a brain fart and pulls a Maroney, and suddenly Douglas is two-time Olympic champion by default.

How would that affect your view of her legacy? Does that elevate her to the rank of Greatest US gymnast ever and greatest gymnast of the modern era? Does the fact that she is defending champion add legitimacy to a win that people would otherwise sort of "pass off" much like most people don't think about Izbasa winning vault in London, only that Maroney didn't. Gabby has had a VERY short senior elite career; just four years over two quads. She's proved that she's no flash in the pan, but would winning the AA twice do what she needs to erase any lingering doubt about her place in the history books as THE greatest American gymnast of all time?

Disclaimer: I am not a Douglas uber nor hater; I am ambivalent. It was just recently pointed out to me that Douglas is setting herself up to be the #2 lock in Rio, which means if Simone has a bad day, which isn't impossible, she has a very decent chance at being #1 yet again.

If Gabby Douglas wins in Rio...

Running Tally of USA D-scores heading into Rio

Would people be interested in a thread where we keep track of D-scores for the US gymnasts for this year since we know the olympic selection will be very difficult? Would love a master thread that compares the top gymnasts of the other countries, but we have nowhere near the resources that we have for the USA gymnasts here in the USA.

I'd like to update this as the gymnasts compete more during the year. I want to make it realistic, so I don't want it to merely be planned D-scores, but more so skills and connections that have been competed and credited. Once they add in difficulty in competition, I'll update their D-scores. For a new routine, we can do the routine breakdowns. Let me know if I make mistakes, or if my terminology is off (particularly on dance skills).

So far for this year, we've seen Gabby Douglas, Maggie Nichols, and Madison Kocian. After Jesolo and Pac Rims we should have D-scores for most of the top contenders.

Current Standings:

1. Douglas = 5.8 + 6.4 + 6.5 + 6.0 = 24.7
2. Nichols = 5.8 + 6.0 + 6.3 + 6.3 = 24.4
3. Kocian = 0 + 6.6 + 6.3 + 0 = 12.9

New Routines

Vault

We saw DTYs from both Gabby and Maggie at the American Cup. Maggie will most likely get back her amanar, but we've yet to see if Gabby will be able to bring hers back.
Douglas: 5.8
Nichols: 5.8

Bars

Gabby added the Chow 1/2 at the American Cup, planned to connect but didn't, so I won't give her the CV until we see her compete it in combination:

Clear pike 1/1 (E) + Piked Tkatchev (E) + Pak (D) CV = 0.3
Clear pike 1/2 (D) + Endo 1/2 in el grip (D) + Stalder circle (C) + Chow 1/2 (E) CV = 0.1
Clear pike (D)
DLO (D)

Skills: EEEDDDDD = 3.5
CV: 0.4
EGR: 2.5
D-score: 6.4 (6.5 with Chow 1/2 connection)

Maggie showed her same routine from last year at the American Cup, missed the van leeuwen connection but we've seen her do it many times:

Toe-on 1/1 (D) + Maloney (D) + Pak (D) + Van Leeuwen (E) CV = 0.4
Toe-on (C) + Toe-on 1/2 (C) + Jaeger (D)
DLO (D)

Skills: EDDDDDCC = 3.1
CV: 0.4
EGR: 2.5
D-score: 6.0

Madison competed her same bar routine from last year's Worlds at the WOGA Classic:

Clear pike 1/1 (E)
Komova I (E) + Pak (D) + Chow 1/2 (E) CV = 0.4
Clear pike 1/2 (D) + Jaeger (D) CV = 0.1
Stalder circle (C) + Stalder 1/1 (D) + Full-in (D) CV = 0.1

Skills: EEEDDDDD = 3.5
CV: 0.6
EGR: 2.5
D-score: 6.6

Beam

Gabby competed a routine at the American Cup similar to last year's (switch ring most likely wasn't credited but we know shes gotten credit before):

Piked front (E) + Split jump (A) CV = 0.1
Flic-flac (B) + Layout Step out (C)
Standing full (F)
Switch leap (C) + Switch 1/2 (D) CV = 0.1
Punch front (D)
Single L-turn (C)
Switch Ring (E)
Front aerial (D) + Split jump (A) + Pike jump (A) CV = 0.1
Flic-flac (B) + Back handspring (B) + Double Pike (E) CV = 0.1

Acro: FEEDD = 2.4
Dance: EDC = 1.2
CV: 0.4
EGR: 2.5
D-score: 6.5

Maggie showed some upgrades on beam at the American Cup:

Wolf 2 1/2 (E)
Wolf double (D)
Front aerial (D) + Split jump (A) + Sissone (A) CV = 0.1
Side Somi (D)
Wolf jump (A) + Punch front (D) CV = 0.1
Aerial cartwheel (D)
Switch ring (E)
Flic-flac (B) + Layout Step out (C)
Switch leap (C) + Back tuck (C) CV = 0.1
Double Pike (E)

Acro: EDDDD = 2.1
Dance: EED = 1.4
CV: 0.3
EGR: 2.5
D-score: 6.3

Madison also showed upgrades at the WOGA classic (I've rarely seen her actually connect her aerial to a sheep jump if ever, so I won't credit her for it yet):

Arabian (F)
Switch ring (E)
Flic-flac (B) + Layout Step out (C) + Layout Step out (C) CV = 0.2
Front aerial (D)
Sheep jump (D)
Aerial Cartwheel (D) + Split jump (A) + Sissone (A) CV = 0.1
Full turn (A)
Switch leap (C) + Back tuck (C) CV = 0.1
Double pike (E)

Acro: FEDDC = 2.2
Dance: EDC = 1.2
CV: 0.4
EGR: 2.5
D-score: 6.3

Floor

Gabby competed basically her same routine at the American Cup from last year (not sure she's ever been credited with the Ferrari so not giving it to her yet):

Double L-turn (D) + Single L-turn (B) CV = 0.1
Double Arabian (E) + Stag Jump (A) CV = 0.1
Full-in (E)
Switch ring (C) + Gogean (D)
Memmel (D)
Double pike (D)
Split leap 1/1 (C) (attempting Ferrari (D))
Double tuck (D)

Acro: EEDD = 1.8
Dance: DDDC = 1.5
CV: 0.2
EGR: 2.5
D-score: 6.0 (6.1 with Ferrari)

Maggie performed her new floor routine at the American Cup:

Double double (H)
Full-in (E)
Switch ring (C) + Switch leap 1/1 (D)
Full-in pike (E)
Gogean (D)
Triple wolf turn (E)
Double tuck (D)

Acro: HEED = 2.2
Dance: EDDC = 1.6
CV: 0.0
EGR: 2.5
D-score: 6.3

Running Tally of USA D-scores heading into Rio

Gymcastics Podcasts

Does anyone else here listen to the Gymnastic podcasts? Pure golden!!!!!!!! http://ift.tt/1YA3ZjI

Gymcastics Podcasts

Could Rio 2016 be at risk? What would happen if Brazil is not apt to host the Games?

I know this might be a long shot, but I've been worried about the Rio Olympics lately. I know everything seem to come together at the right time but Brazil is really in the biggest political/economic/corruption-related unrest it has been in the past 30 years. I've never seen anything like it and expert says they have never seen anything like it in the past 50 years. The situation is just getting very scary considering it seems possible that it could get worst in the coming months. I think on the 13th we will have clues to what will happen as there will be a big protest rally this Sunday. The population is expected to be on the streets protesting and this time, tensions are at an all time high.

It's sad but I don't think Rio could come in a worst time. People REALLY don't care about sports right now and there is a 50/50 chance that the President will be impeached before the Olympics. This Sunday will be the first of many protests to come requesting the change in Power. Things could escalate and become violent.

I'm very sad and concerned about this. Like I said, everything may end up perfectly fine but would another city (London maybe) be able to host the event given there is military intervention/impeachment/violent unrest in Brazil?

Could Rio 2016 be at risk? What would happen if Brazil is not apt to host the Games?

2016 Elite Team Cup

March 5, 6pm ET

Elite Team Cup field roster
By state, alphabetically (name, hometown/state/club, region)


Junior elite regional team members


California
Cameron Bock, Tustin, Calif./SCATS, Region 1
Thomas Chin, Santa Monica, Calif./Gymnastics Olympica, Region 1
Andrew Herrador, Livermore, Calif./West Coast Olympic Gymnastics Academy, Region 1
Bennet Huang, Palo Alto, Calif./West Coast Olympic Gymnastics Academy, Region 1
Dylan Young, Burbank, Calif./Gymnastics Olympica, Region 1


Colorado
Vitaliy Guimaraes, Aruada, Colo./5280 North, Region 9
Kirk Malm, Colorado Springs, Colo./Colorado Training Center, Region 9
Coleson Stodghill, Evergreen, Colo./5280 North, Region 9
Isaac Xiong, Westminster, Colo./5280 North, Region 9


Florida
Ryan Orce, Gainesville, Fla./Sun Country Gymnastics, Region 8
Justin Ah Chow, Miami/Universal Gymnastics, Region 8
Matthew Wagner, West Palm Beach, Fla./Haydens Gymnastics, Region 8


Georgia
Andrew Bitner, Buford, Ga./Gymnastix, Region 8
Ethan Esval, Roswell, Ga./Atlanta School of Gymnastics, Region 8
Brody Malone, Cedartown, Ga./Cartersville Gymnastics, Region 8


Idaho
Colton Dee, Nampa, Idaho/Danik Gymnastics, Region 2
Ryker Shaw, Rexburg, Idaho/Madison Gymnastics, Region 2


Illinois
Max Andryushchenko, Chicago, Ill./Lakeshore Academy, Region 5
Paul Juda, Deerfield, Ill./Buffalo Grove Gymnastics, Region 5
Josh Martin, Buffalo Grove, Ill./Aerial’s Gymnastics, Region 5
Bailey Perez, Glen Ellyn, Ill./Premeir Gymnastics, Region 5


Indiana
Mitchell Brown, Fortville, Ind./DeVeau’s, Region 5


Massachusetts
Addison Chung, Medfield, Mass./New England Sports Academy, Region 6
Ben Provost, South Hadley, Mass./Daggett’s Gymnastics, Region 6
Jonathan Wang, Newton, Mass./New England Sports Academy, Region 6

Michigan
Jacob Moore, West Bloomfield, Mich./Twistars Gymnastics, Region 5


Minnesota
Henry Meeker, Minneapolis, Minn./MHG, Region 4
Shane Wiskus, Spring Park, Minn./MHG, Region 4


New Hampshire
Michael Fletcher, Nashua, N.H./New England Academy of Gymnastics, Region 6
Nicholas Merryman, Brookline, N.H./New England Academy of Gymnastics, Region 6


New Jersey
Andrew Brower, Old Bridge, N.J./US Gymnastics Development Center, Region 7
Evan Hymanson, Morganville, N.J./Monmouth Gymnastics, Region 7
Timmothy Kutyla, Wyckoff, N.J./US Gymnastics Development Center, Region 7
Sebastian Quiana, Oradell, N.J./US Gymnastics Development Center, Region 7


Nebraska
Noah Urwiler, Lincoln, Neb./Nebraska School of Gymnastics, Region 4


Nevada
Brennan Pantazis, Sparks, Nev./Gymnastics Nevada, Region 1


Oregon
Parker Chiapuzio, Tigard, Ore./Multnomah Athletic Club, Region 2
Spencer Goodell, Tigard, Ore./OMEGA, Region 2
Peyton Hobson, Salem, Ore./OMEGA, Region 2


Pennsylvania
Jacob Light, Macungie, Pa./Parkettes Gymnastics, Region 7


Texas
Davis Grooms, Katy, Texas/Champions Gymnastics, Region 3
Tanner Justus, Cypress, Texas/Cypress Academy, Region 3
David Pochinka, Plano, Texas/WOGA, Region 3
Blake Sun, San Antonio, Texas/Alamo Gymnastics, Region 3
Alexei Vernyi, Cypress, Texas/Cypress Academy, Region 3
Matthew Wenske, Houston, Texas/Cypress Academy, Region 3


Utah
Dillan King, Eagle Mtn, Utah/USA Gymnastics World, Region 9
Scott McMurray, North Salt Lake, Utah/USA Gymnastics World, Region 9


Virginia
Sean Neighbarger, Virginia Beach, Va./Gymstrada, Region 7


Vermont
Nikita Bolotsky, Saint Johnsbury, Vt./Kingdom Gymnastics, Region 6


Washington
Will Bughi, Colbert, Wash./Dynamic Gymnastics, Region 2


Wisconsin
Andrrew Eng, New Berlin, Wis./Swiss Turners, Region 4
Jacob Schroeder, Waukesha, Wis./Swiss Turners, Region 4
Colin Schwartz, Pleasant Prairie, Wis./Scamps Gymnastics, Region 4

2016 Elite Team Cup

Russian Gymnastics Appreciation - 2016: The Olympic Year

Since it's 2016, the old thread is over 100 pages long, and with the forum being down, it's the perfect time to start a new thread!


2016 has arrived! The Olympics are right around the corner! The Russians fear the Zika virus (are they pregnant?!)! Nabs for President!


I'm adding milktea's quote, because it summed up the recent events nicely:

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Originally Posted by milktea

Oh wow, the forum is back! Where do I begin?

Things that have happened:

-Russia not going to Rio Test Event due to concerns of the Zika virus, and Nabs called bullsh-t on that excuse (it was great)

-Ilyankova, Perebinosova, Saifulina, and Zubova currently at Gymnix (Ilyankova looks good)

-Aliya might compete at the DTB-Pokal Team Challenge in Stuttgart, but that's not for certain

-Aliya undecided about AA or just a few events at Russian Championships

-Shelgunova has been getting big scores lately at competitions in Riga and Minsk

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Russian Gymnastics Appreciation - 2016: The Olympic Year

Gymnasts qualified to Hopes /Elite in Both compulsories.optionals

10/11
Skye Blakely
Konnor McClain
12/13
Alyssa Al-Ashari
Ciena Alipio
Sloane Blakely
Cosette Carranza
Chae Campbell
Audrey davis
KaylaDiCello
Olivia Dunne
Kylie Eaquinto
Addison Fatta
EMjae Frazier
Gabrielle Gallentine
Sophia Groth
Jaylene Gilstrap
Annie Gruner
Hannah Hagle
Maeve Hahn
Kaytlyn Johnson
Madeleine Johnston
Hannah Joyner
Adeline Kenlin
Emily Lee
Lauren Letzsch
Lillian Lippeatt
Lauren Little
Autumn Lull
Isabel Mabanta
Cameron Machado
AmberMcArthur
EmilliMcCormack
Deiah-Marie Moody
Brenna Neault
Ava Piedrahita
Abigail Scanlon
Reese Samuelson
Genevieve Sabado-Baez
Danielle Sievers
Kalyany Steele
Calvary Swaney
Morgan Trevor
Amanda Zeng
jr All
Irina Alexeeva
Jordan Bowers
Aria Brusch
Kiya Johnson
Lilly Hudson
Eliana Lazzari
Sunisa Lee
Jaymes Marshall

Gymnasts qualified to Hopes /Elite in Both compulsories.optionals

Gymnasts qualified to Hopes /Elite in optionals only

10/11
Sydney Barros
Levi Jung-Ruivivar
Sierra Kaplan
Katelyn Rosen
12/13
Hanna Castillo
Ella Cesario
Alysen Fears
Libby Mosley
Caitlin Smith

Gymnasts qualified to Hopes /Elite in optionals only

Gymnasts qualified to Hopes /Elite in Compulsories only

10-11
Zoe Miller
Haley Havenor
Emma Kelley
Ava Mabanta
Ashlin Williams
12/13
Elizabeth Barber
Cael Bixler
Chase Brock
Ella Chemotti
Jenna Daugherty
Nicole Dillis
Danae Fletcher
Reaia Floyd
Kenzie Ford
Karis German
Gianna Gerdes
Mariah Gonzalez
Gracie Higgs
Taylor Hipolito
Marissa Jencks
Alonna Kratzer
Ashley Lane
Taylor Lehman
Victoria Loomis
Mallory Marcheli
Kathleen Ours
Anya Pilgrim
Adeline Sabados
Megan Sapp
Claire Tunnell
Ashtin Stutsman
Sarah Stewart
Kathryn Weilbacher
Bryce Wilson
Jamie Wright
JR
Meleah Bell
Kinsey Davis
Gabrielle Dildy
Cornelia Eksteen
Frida Esparza
Anneliese Koenig
Madelynn LaCoe
Laney Madsen
Maya Page
Ariel Posen
Lyndsey Rudolph
Jamison Sears
Victoria Smirnov
Madelyn Williams
Samantha Wu

Gymnasts qualified to Hopes /Elite in Compulsories only

All-American Appreciation Thread - Road to Rio

It's time to start a new appreciation thread. Here are the last few post from the last one.

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Originally Posted by alattejavatoo

I can't believe how many people were shocked by Kyla's retirement-it's not like the writing wasn't on the wall. I wish her well in what ever path she chooses to follow and am grateful for her years of artistic gymnastics an the sport won't be the same without her.

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Originally Posted by sammie1977

I think it was shocking because the Olympics were so close. It seemed Kyla would give it a try. She definitely looked weak in 2015 but nobody is ever out of it for teams. She just burnt out and that happens. She probably also looked at the team as a whole and realized that she had an uphill battle. There's a lot more options for specialists and AAs now than a year ago.

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Originally Posted by Sdk310

And you couldn't vent here about how sad it was! I just got this mental picture of you addressing your coworkers by random screen names people have here. ;)

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Originally Posted by alinxz33

I think Kyla knew she needed more difficulty given the rise of Kocian,return of Gabby and serviceable bars by Biles her spot on bars was not required. I also think her body could not handle the difficulty and as such she bowed out.

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Originally Posted by Sdk310

I agree and I think it was really smart and mature. She has NCAA eligibility. She knows that's her future m and perhaps training really hasn't come together how she hoped. Maybe she really didn't want to get hurt again right before her debut ncaa season. I think by February before an Olympic year looking at the field, the five spots, and her current fitness she and her coaches probably knew on some level it would be a long shot bid.

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Originally Posted by Brutus191

I am just surprised she didn't try to start UCLA this year in January and bow out of elite in late fall. Maybe she had already given up her scholarship and had no choice. It may take her a little time to find routines that work for NCAA. Unless they can raise the bar, her double layout still won't work.

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Originally Posted by Agags

She said she wanted to wait until the first camp of the new year to see how she felt about it and she did go to camp so I dint' think she was sure of the decision until after the camp. I think having the time to heal, work on her NCAA skills and routines, spend a season not competing and just living a normal life I think are all good. I was honestly afraid she would burn out before she got to UCLA and not make it four years if she did the whole elite season. this year.

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Originally Posted by Mrs Sam

Me too! My first post after lurking for almost 2 years! ;)

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Originally Posted by Sdk310

How does an elite transition to NCAA? Is it an easy transition with the skills needed being so much lower difficulty than elite?

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Originally Posted by brazilgirl23

I think it depends on the athlete. I'm not an expert but it seems like NCAA really focus on execution and teamwork. So gymnasts like Aly (heavily D skewed) or Nastia, Shawn and Gabby (who made it too big individually to be just part of a team) don't really fit in the puzzle. Then there are the girls who would be good fits but rush going pro (Bross, Wieber). Kyla I think is an example of a perfect NCAA gymnast (let's see if that will be the case). She always made it very clear that she wanted to go collegiate, is highly E skewed, a team player and super reliable. She really has it all to be the most successful NCAA gymnast ever. Price and Sloan are two great very recent examples of Elite to NCAA success.

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All-American Appreciation Thread - Road to Rio

Gymboard Therapy Thread

Sorry if this is inappropriate to post here, but I feel the need to share how much I missed this board, and didn't want to ruin any REAL threads. At first, I thought it would just be a few days thing, but as time went on I began to panic! I follow blogs and things, but missed the discussion HERE. Phew - with so much happening and so many meets I'm so glad this is back. And I'm not embarrassed at all to say I was seriously sad that this was down. That is all.

Gymboard Therapy Thread

Tribute to Kyla Ross

This thread is a tribute to Kyla Ross who has carried herself with elegance and grace. I will miss her beautiful gymnastics and classy demeanor. I'm sure she will be successful at whatever she pursues.

Tribute to Kyla Ross

2016 Gymnix

Since the forum was down I will start the thread podium training videos are available on FLogymnastics I would encourage everyone to check out Sae Miyakawa's fx.

2016 Gymnix

NCAA Appreciation Thread

What do you guys think of Sophina's FX video that went viral? Not a huge fan but I understand why non gym nerds like it.

Looking forward to what Kyla will accomplish at UCLA.

NCAA Appreciation Thread

Maroney Interview

Maroney gives a great interview. However, i wouldn't be too pleased if i were her coaches. Kinda threw them under the bus in my opinion. But it was interesting to hear what goes on behind the scenes. I already kind of assumed that the culture was cut throat, but she sure confirmed it. Juicy.

Maroney Interview