New update to elite qualifiers

Tim rand schedule 1/21/2016
Parkettes Invitational and Elite Compulsory Qualifier ( next week)
Palm Springs Invitational Compulsory qualifier (1/10)
No info on
Cincinnati elite qualifier
KPAC Cup - Charlotte, N.C. ( National qualifier)
Hopes qualifier -Auburn Gymnastics
National qualifier at Ranch
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New update to elite qualifiers

Buckeye compulsory qualifier

Buckeye 3
Cincinnati Gym 2
City Club Gym 1
Discover 2
Everest 3
Eurostars 4
Gym America 1
Gym X-treme 1
Gymsport Gems 1
Hopes and Dreams 2
KPAC 3
Loudon Gym 2
Naperville 2
Olympic Dreams 1
Premier 2
World Class 10
No clue on age divisions
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Buckeye compulsory qualifier

just wondering

I was just wondering how much long-term physical damage today's gymnasts might be doing to their bodies with the type of tumbling that is done today. I was reading about Mary Lou Retton recently, and she has had hip replacement surgery. There was a congenital issue here, also, and combined with her powerful tumbling 30+ years ago (not comparable to what it is now, but still pretty good), apparently caused the damage. I remember someone saying after the LA Olympics that, in order to do the powerful new tumbling (for that time) and to be successful in gymnastics, all future female gymnasts would have to be built like MLR. But after her came Svetlana Boginskaya and then Svetlana Khorkina, two successful gymnasts who could not be more physically different. I wince sometimes when I see today's female gymnasts land from their tumbling runs. Simone Biles, for example, looks like she is falling out of the sky--how does she have enough time to do all that up there before she lands? All that pounding and all those hard landings must be taking a toll (and this is to say nothing of the men). Any thoughts?

just wondering

MAG and WAG 2017-2020 Code of Points Drafts (to be voted on)

Here are drafts of the MAG and WAG 2017-2020 Code of Points to be voted on in February (I think).

MAG: http://ift.tt/1MrT6rO
WAG: http://ift.tt/22leJWy

Haven't had time to look through the draft in its entirety, but one thing I did notice that made me happy was "Note: Handspring fwd on – tucked double salto fwd off: If the 2nd salto is not completed because the gymnast lands on the feet and bottom simultaneously, then the vault will be recognized as Handspring fwd on - Tucked fwd Salto off."

MAG and WAG 2017-2020 Code of Points Drafts (to be voted on)

Witch of the gymnasts had the worse luck in their careers?

Pavs retirement made me think of this one.

Witch of the gymnasts had the worse luck in their careers?

Is 16 Still Sweet?

So, conventional logic often says that the ideal age for a female gymnast to be in the Olympic year is 16, but how true is that, really? Turning 16 in the Olympic year may be advantageous for that rare top AA prospect, but being 16 in the Olympic year may not be ideal for a female gymnast aspiring to make an Olympic team, in general. On the US side, in particular, these young juniors have more of an uphill climb to be seriously considered for the Oly team than older, senior veterans because they have shorter resumes and less, if any, senior experience. For many of the Olympic year “Sweet 16’s,” age has shut them out of opportunities that they would have been able to vie for, had they been older, and as long as the veterans remain consistent and competitive in international competition, there’s less of an incentive for TPTB to gamble on less established or unproven talent when drafting an Olympic team. So, if not, 16, what is the ideal age for a female gymnast to be in the Olympic year and why :confused:?

Is 16 Still Sweet?

2015 Worlds - NBC?

Does anyone have a link to the NBC broadcast of 2015 worlds? Quals, TF, AA, EF? Anything. Surprisingly, interested in their commentary

2015 Worlds - NBC?

Belgium's Lisa Verschueren had to retire due to a heart problem

Wasn't sure where to put this so thought I'd make a thread. So sad for her and her Olympic dreams, but also lucky it was caught before it became a major problem. I can't imagine having to make a decision like that, and so quickly. Hopefully this doesn't hamper Belgium's efforts to qualify a team, but it seems it might :( . http://ift.tt/1Qt90Kb

Belgium's Lisa Verschueren had to retire due to a heart problem

Flying Squirrel Interviews and Chelle Stack's unfinished book

From facebook:

Here are a few interviews by Keith McCaffety. His newsletter was called "the flying squirells". USAG didn't like that he was exposing the bad parts of gymnastics so they banned him cridentials so he quit. A few of the interviews are Sandy Woolsey Holcomb Juliet Bangerter Betty Okiono Erica Stokes Jennfier Mercier Anne Dixon Marna Neubaur Hilary Anderson and the unfinished book that he was writing with Chelle Stack and her mom. Interesting reading and trashy at times!

http://ift.tt/1m70ljH

Flying Squirrel Interviews and Chelle Stack's unfinished book

Each Gymnasts (Realistic) Win Path?

What do each of these gymnasts have to do/capable of doing in order to get to their goals in your opinion.

Simone- 4 Golds in Rio:

I would say bring the Cheng, put in the Balance beam combos she's been working and add the Moors and she is set. And obviously stay healthy

Gabby- Beat Simone:
I would say get the amanar(which she has), Upgrade bars to 6.6-6.8, beam to 6.3-5. I heard rumors she's working a DLO on floor.

SCS- Medal in the AA:

Tough one, I feel like she's maxed out on Uneven bars and floor. Could maybe add more work on beam. I have no idea what to do with that vault, she just doesn't seem to have the power.


Larissa- Beat Gabby, keep pace with Simone:

If she can get an amanar all bets are off, but I just don't see hit. Hit her hardest beam set. I still think she can do more on bars as well.

Komova- Be an AA contender:
Again if she can get back her amanar she is in with shot. Her floor was actually ok for just coming back.

Mustafina- Medal in Rio:

I honestly just want her to make it there, I'm wondering if she's going to drop vault. Even with her old routines she could potentially medal on all 3 of the other events

Steingruber- medal on vault, be an AA threat:

Supposedly she is working a front double full vault (?). She rarely hits to the best of her abilities on all events.


Madison Kocian: Make the Olympic team-
She may have punched her ticket with her performance at Worlds, but I stll think she has to prove that she is either A. Usable on other events or that B. She's far ana away the best on bars. I think people forget that when healthy she can put up a 59 AA on a good day.

Ashton Locker- Make the Olympic team:
Basically it comes down to she has to knockout Kocian. Its kind of an unfortunate case because my ehart tells em a healthy Ashton would've been taken over Kocian this year and I honestly feel she is the better more natural bar worker. But at this point I think she would have to show up with 7.0 or thereabouts bar routine.


Kyla Ross- make the Olympic team

I think after seeing worlds her odds have definitely improved. Beam did not look too hot. If she can come with 6.6 bar routine that she can hit and a nice beam set, I'd take her.


Feel free to add more/contribute. Or any ya'll good with routine construction/have any updates on upgrades.

Each Gymnasts (Realistic) Win Path?

FIG WAG Newsletter November 2015 Online!!

Here it is on the website: http://ift.tt/1MZqZUF

Here is the direct link to the PDF file: http://ift.tt/1MZr2jc

LOL there's so much shade for BB. From page 15: "Beam exercises are still, with many pauses and no fluidity. Many difficult routines still have no artistry at all which is disappointing. The "close to beam" special requirement maybe should include an element instead of sitting on the beam, turning, lying back and then standing up. No gymnast did a sideward dance element (for the increased value - it is not being performed for fear of falling. There was an overuse of Gainer salto dismounts (in particular to get a D dismount)."

Thoughts??

FIG WAG Newsletter November 2015 Online!!

Brestyan 's las vegas elite qualifier Club Info club names Levels

1st Class - MD Both Elite
Accel - CA All levels
Adrenaline - CO All levels
Aerial Athletics-TX Both Hopes Elite Comp
AGI - IL Both hopes
AIM - TX All levels
All American - SD Both Hopes
All American - UT Both hopes
All Stars - NY Both Hopes
American - CT Both Hopes Elite comp
Arete - UT All levels
Atlantic Coast Both hopes Elite opt
Auburn - WA Both Comp Elite opt
Azarian - CA Both Elite
Buckeye - OH Hopes opt
Capital - VA Both elite
Chow's - IA All levels
Cincinnati - OH Both Elite
CO Aerials - CO Both Elite
Denton - TX All levels
DK - CO Hopes Comp
Emeth - OH Both Hopes
ENA Paramus - NJ Both Elite
EuroStars - MI Both Hopes Elite Comp
First In Flight - NC All levels
First State - DE All levels
Flyaways Gold - MN Both Elite
GAR - IL Both Hopes Elite Comp
Genie's - FL Both Hopes
Georgia AllStar - GA Both Hopes
GldMedalCenter - NY Both Hopes
GldMedal Greenlawn-NY
Golden City - FLBoth Hopes
GTC - GA All levels
GymAmerica - MI Both Elite
Gym-Max - CA Both Elite
Gymn Powerhouse-TX Both Elite
GymNasti - IL Both Elite
Gym East Both Hopes
GymnEtc - LA Both Hopes
Head Over Heels-CABoth Elite
Hill's - MD Both Hopes Elite opt
Intensity - FL Elite Opt
Iowa Gym-Nest - IA Both Elite
JustJymnastics-SD Both Hopes
KPAC - NC All levels
Kurt Thomas - OK Both Elite
Matrix - CA All levels
Metroplex - TX All levels
MG Elite - NJ Elite opt
Midwest - MN Both Elite
Mismo - MT Both Comp
Naperville - IL Both Hopes
NETX Elite - TX Hopes opt
Oakland GTC - MI All levels
Olympia Hills - TX Both Elite
OSEGA - NC Both opt
Paragon - VA Both Hopes
Paramount Elite-CA Both HopesElite comp
Precision - CA Both Hopes
Revolution - WV Hopes opt
SalcianuElite - NV Both hopes Elite opt
Salto West - MI Hopes Comp
Texas Dreams - TX Both Elite
Texas East - TX Both Hopes
TIGAR - CO Both Elite
Top Notch - GA Both Elite
Twisters - CA Both Hopes
United Elite - TX Both Hopes
VEGA - FL Both Elite
Waller's Gym Jam- CA Both Elite
West Valley - CA All levels
Will-Moor - NJ Both Hopes
Winners - CA Both Hopes
World Champions - TX Elite opt
Zenith Elite - TX Both Hopes Elite opt
No numbers and divisions
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Brestyan 's las vegas elite qualifier Club Info club names Levels

Second update to elite qualifiers

No info yet

Jan. 15, 2016 - Coaches Spectacular Elite Compulsory qualifier - Cincinnati, Ohio(registration closed)
jan 15 Brestyan’s Invite Compulsory Qualifier (registration closed)
Jan. 22, 2016 - Parkettes Invitational and Elite Compulsory Qualifier – Allentown, Pa.(registration closed)
Jan. 22-24, 2016 - Palm Springs Invitational Compulsory qualifier- Palm Springs, Calif.
Feb. 4, 2016 - Buckeye Classic and Elite Compulsory Qualifier - Columbus, Ohio
March 4-6, 2016 - Tim Rand Invite and Elite Compulsory Qualifier - Ft. Lauderdale, Fla.
March 10-12, 2016 - KPAC Cup - Charlotte, N.C. ( National qualifier) (registration closed)
April 15-16, 2016 Hopes qualifier -Auburn Gymnastics
May 13/14 National qualifier at Ranch

Second update to elite qualifiers

Top Gym 2015

Anyone have news or information about the Top Gym competition in Belgium this weekend? It starts tomorrow, right?

Top Gym 2015

The Video On The Site

Is there any way to set so the video doesn't come on automatically when I go to the main page? It's really distracting.

The Video On The Site

Myrtle Beach Compulsory Elite qualifier

There will be two sessions o fElite compulsory competitions No Info on gyms but 12 Gymnasts per session

Myrtle Beach Compulsory Elite qualifier

Brestyan 's las vegas elite qualifier

The website announced the there will be 8-10 Hopes/Elites qualifier sessions
More info to come
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Brestyan 's las vegas elite qualifier

Toyota International Cup | 12-13 December

http://ift.tt/1MG4nIy

Quite an impressive roster. Of course both Japanese teams are killer, but Russia is sending its top WAG and USA sending a strong men's team.

Toyota International Cup | 12-13 December

Test Event Team Predictions

So I know the Test Event is a good 5 or so months away but I find myself thinking about which teams are going to advance pretty much on a weekly basis. I'm already a little anxious about it because I know it's going to be a really tough battle. Here are the totals from the teams in Glasgow.

9. Brazil 221.861
10. France 219.919
11. Belgium 219.78
12. Germany 219.261
13. Romania 217.220
14. Australia 214.812
15. South Korea 213.744
16. Switzerland 213.494

Right off the bat I'm counting out Australia, South Korea, and Switzerland. They are already far behind and I can't think of any talented juniors turning senior next year that would make a dramatic impact. So that leaves five with only four able to go through. This is where I get anxious because I know one of these great teams won't make it through. Romania and Brazil are at a disadvantage on one end because they don't have any juniors turning senior next year that will boost their scores, whereas France, Belgium, and Germany will have at least one if not two or three juniors join the team and up their score. But at the same time, Brazil will have Andrade back to at least some extent and Romania will have Ponor and possibly Izbasa. Plus Romania had the most mistakes out of any of the five teams. As of right now my three going through are Romania, Brazil, and France. I am having a really hard time deciding between Belgium and Germany right now because they along with France were basically tied in Glasgow and both teams have two really talented juniors joining the team next year. Of course as we get closer to the event it will become a little more clear but right now it could be really any of those five with Romania and Brazil having an advantage IMO.

Test Event Team Predictions

Al Trautwig?

As I sort of lost interest in gymnastics after Svetlana Khorkina retired, and have just recently started to get it back, there are gaps in my knowledge concerning certain things. I know some of you can enlighten me about this. Just why is Al Trautwig commentating on gymnastics? And how long as he been doing so? From what I have read on this site, and online, he seems to creep a lot of people out, including me, with his questionable comments. Am I remembering right, or is he the one who said the grandfathers watching a certain gymnast should remember that "she's only (however young he said)." I remember being out of the room when whoever said that, but I remember thinking that that kind of crack was tasteless, at best, and sounded like something out of "To Catch a Predator," at worst. Is he just there to fill air time with meaningless comments like, "She's a Chinese gymnast, and she's young!"? Do they really need him? All you AT fans, speak up LoL

Al Trautwig?

Morgan Reynolds Hospitalized

Does anyone know what is going on with Morgan Reynolds (UGA)? I've only read that she has been hospitalized for about a week or so with a "serious E. coli infection." That could be so many different things given that many different strains of E. coli infections can cause pathologies for many different organ systems.

Morgan Reynolds Hospitalized

American Cup Tickets

What is the likelihood that deals or discounts will show up closer to American Cup? I would like to go, but I just don't want to spend $250 for good seats. I also don't want to spend $50-$75 for nosebleed seats.

American Cup Tickets

Amazing to think London team would have been just as strong with Price as with Wieber

I know it doesn't mean anything but it is funny to think you have easily subbed Elizabeth Price in for Jordyn Wieber in London and not only would they still have won, but it probably wouldn't have hurt the team total one iota. Price if she hit would probably score atleast as high as Wieber on all of vault, bars, and floor (considering Jordyn didn't do her best on floor in any round). Wieber was overscored on bars substantialy in the U.S meets, but an international panel would probably score Price higher if both hit. Price generally was super consistent and hit all her routines too. The huge difference between the two is beam and Jordyn wasn't even used on beam in team finals. Price might have made floor finals and won a silver or bronze too, and if she somehow learnt a 2nd vault by London (unlikely) she could have won vault gold with Maroney's fall.

I know it doesn't mean anything and realistically Jordyn is the last person who would have been left off the team, but it is funny to think nonetheless.
Wieber was almost rendered irrelevant in London after being the dominant star only 6 months later. To her credit she did a very good job in team finals on all 3 of her events, yet was the lowest score on all 3 still.

Amazing to think London team would have been just as strong with Price as with Wieber

Shchennikova

Did the Shchennikovas switch gyms? I noticed in the camp roster that it had Alyona listed as being at 5280 Gymnastics and not TIGAR.

Shchennikova

1996 Olympic All-Around compared to All-Around competition today.(positive/negatives)

Yesterday I decided to re-watch the 1996 Olympic AA. I had watched that competition over 5 years ago, and was not very sure of the results. I know that Dawes wasn't going to win (as Gabby was the first African American to do so). I also had a feeling that it wasn't going to be Mo Hulian. I had a slight hunch that Lilia might been the AA winner seen we talk about her so much here. But was was it. I thought the podium was up for grabs by Miller, Lillia, Gogean, Amanar, Milo, Khorkina, Bogi, Kotchetkova, Galieva and Moceanu. I tried to forget all I actually knew (Khorkina never got the Olympic AA) etc...

Dislikes:
To tell you all the truth, I was underwhelmed by the 10 format. I don't think it made it that more exciting than our open ended system. To my opinion, the scores made a lot less sense if you weren't a judge (for example, Mo's 9.8 on beam with a huge wobble). There were no 9.9's and the top seemed to hover around a 9.8.

By the first rotation it became clear that Domi and Bogi were out.
The second and first rotations were a blur - there was the moment at FX where the two American girls had meltdowns and I knew they were out as well. They did not show Khorkina in the the third rotation which made me believe she was out.
The fourth rotation was so anti-climatic. Lilia got a huge score on beam and they told us only Mo could pass her. What about the other girls? It confused me. Still, it was pretty clear by them that Pod was the AA champ. We didn't really get to see the battle for silver and bronze at all though - which ended up with Gogean on second and Milo/Amanar on third. The differentiation of the scores were so hard to follow, I really didn't find it super exciting. Plus, there were only gymnasts from the old USSR, China, US, Romania competing. Nowadays we see so much more diversity.

So yes, even though we always talk about the glory days of the 10 system, as a spectator, I much prefer the D+E system we have now. Even for the casual viewer it was probably hard to understand why a routine got a 9.712 and another for 9.125.

Likes: Aside from Khorkina on bars and some passes out of bounds and a questionable landing from Dawes, nobody really made big mistakes. Heck, EVERYONE stayed in the beam. Beam was such an amazing apparatus back them. That is what I liked the most. Beam. I hope beam can become similar what it was in 1996, but under the E+D system. I also really liked that NBC at that time seemed to show most gymnastics in the top 12 group. That was very nice.

Which should I watch next? I know the results of 1992, but maybe watch that team comp? Should I watch the 2000 Olympcics? 88? Any Worlds in particular? Please give me some amazing competitions from back then that I don't exactly know the result. Starting from 2004, I know most of the results.

Anyone agree, disagree or have more to add?

1996 Olympic All-Around compared to All-Around competition today.(positive/negatives)

how could this ever be?

Well, now that the dust has settled from World's, I am just amazed how gymnastics has changed in at least the past 40 years. Russia not even bronze? Romania having to qualify again to even get to the Olympics? Back in the age of Soviet superiority, they had a kind of serene superiority. They knew they were the best, and they were, as gymnastics was then. How well I remember when Cathy Rigby, after all the newspaper and magazine and newspaper coverage she had gotten, especially for her silver BB medal, did not even make beam finals at Munich. Her coach went into a rage, saying, "This is the worst rape in the history of sport!" When Larisa Latynina was informed of this, she said something that I still do not know was nasty or nice (maybe it was both). She said something like, "The American girls are so graceful, so lovely, that I suspect we judge them a little too generously, if anything." Whew! Someone remarked that LL should be in the diplomatic corps, if she wasn't already. It was painful to see the Russian girls falling like autumn leaves from the beam, and the Romanians messing up. Have they fallen so far, or have the Americans just gotten so much better as gymnastics is practiced today? Surely the great champions in past years are an influence on them, or should be. Oh, well, on to Rio--

how could this ever be?

Ha... All Russian athletes may be banned from OG due to doping!

HA...... What goes around comes around! The Russians are accused of doping and maybe banned from the Olympics games. There will be athletes also stripped of medals and it was said over three quarters were taking banned substances during the 2012 Olympics. A skunk smells it own tail first!

Ha... All Russian athletes may be banned from OG due to doping!

E Scores

I said this a few weeks ago in a forum but does anybody else feel like E scores in the open ending scoring era are total BS?

Has there ever been another era in gymnastics where a normal hit routine without a fall is almost always scored in the high 8s?

I just find it really annoying when you see a really great set with no falls and the judges say nope we found over a point in deductions. Its something I think is really broken.

E Scores

What gymnasts think of King Kohei

Just people stating the obvious :rolleyes:

From the FIG article:
http://ift.tt/1RCd33T

“I don’t think he’s on this planet. I think he’s a superhuman. I think secretly at night he dresses up in costume and saves people from fires and burning buildings. The guy is a legend. The guy is unbelievable.”

– Louis Smith, Great Britain


“He is the black widow of Gymnastics: Silent and deadly. Immensely talented, and I am honored to have been a part of the sport during his time.”

– Paul Ruggeri, USA


“I suppose the best way to explain it is that as we walk into the arena, there’s a Wall of Fame of the previous World champions, and his face is there, and there, and there, and that explains it all. It’s just phenomenal, absolutely incredible. He’s someone everyone in Gymnastics can look up to and aspire to.”

– Kristian Thomas, Great Britain


“I’ve been watching his performance on video for several years now, so I’m really proud I could compete with him, and that we have a gymnast as good as he is at this competition.”

– Manrique Larduet, Cuba


“He is phenomenal. He added something to every routine, just as I expected. I feel like you have to aim for even more than he does, or not compete at all.”

– Oleg Verniaiev, Ukraine


“He is from another planet. The Japanese, they were born to do Gymnastics. He has the flexibility, the body, the elegance. He is like a cat.”

– Marian Dragulescu, Romania


“When it comes to execution there is nothing to be done. Kohei is really the best, and unbeatable in my opinion.“

– Fabian Hambuechen, Germany

What gymnasts think of King Kohei

Swiss Cup 2015, 8 Nov

Participating Teams:

Switzerland 1
Laura Schulte / Claudio Capelli

Switzerland 2
Ilaria Käslin / Pablo Brägger

Canada/Great Britain
Victoria Kayen Woo / Courtney Tulloch

Germany 1
Elisabeth Seitz / Fabian Hambüchen

Germany 2
Pauline Schäfer / Andreas Bretschneider

France
Camille Bahl / Julien Gobaux

Japan
Yuki Uchiyama / Kazuma Kaya

Mexico
Alexa Citlali Moreno Medina / Daniel Corral

Romania
Larisa Andreea Iordache / Marius Daniel Berbecar

Ukraine
Angelina Kysla / Oleg Verniaiev


SRF Zwei will have a live stream (13:15 - 15:45), it's only availabe in Switzerland, though.

Swiss Cup 2015, 8 Nov

2015 Massilia Cup | 21-22 NOV

Official website:
http://ift.tt/1PdtO7G

Belgium
Nina Derwael
Senna Deriks
Julie Meyers
Maellyse Brassart

France
Marine Brevet
Claire Martin
Louise Vanhille
Loan His

Italy
Elisa Meneghini
Enus Mariani
Martina Maggio
Tea Ugrin

Romania
Andreea Iridon
Laura Jurca
Silvia Zarzu
Anamaria Ocolisan

Russia
Evgenia Shelgunova
Daria Skrypnik
Angelina Melnikova
Natalia Kapitonova

2015 Massilia Cup | 21-22 NOV

Simone and The Media

Is anyone else feeling some type of way about how Simone is being largely ignored in the media. She is probably the most dominant athlete her sport has ever seen(verging on GOAT status) the year before the Olympics, just became the most decorated female gymnast at Worlds (by Gold count), and had won Worlds three times in a row. And there like nothing. I remember Carly/Shawn/Jordyn being on stuff before the Olympics and Carly didn't even win. Is it because she's not a little baby teenager? I mean I see people like Ronda Rousey everywhere and thats another niche sport. Tennis players like Serena/Sharapova etc.
Is she being seen as too "similar" to Gabby? (even though they aren't similar at all, but we know the media") Are we on gymnastics burnout from winning so much? She has a great personality and a great story etc. What gives?

Simone and The Media

Blacklisted Athletes

Watching Brenna Dowell's UB mistake makes me really sad because you know its pretty much the end of her Rio dreams. Who were the other athletes belong to this group?

1. Larson- pretty awesome showing at the 2010 US champs that gave her ticket to worlds. I think I read somewhere that Marta didnt want to use her in floor for the team finals but was outvoted by other coaches. I cant recall if she made an error during the TQ that made Martha doubt on her. Her fall and missing a required element on floor pretty much cost USA the Gold(Russia also counted 2 falls from Nabieva). I cant recall how she did during the 2012 US olmypic Trials(she could have redeemed herself).

2. Dowell- lots of people were surprised when she was included on the roster since she was never consistent in UB anyway. People knew that her UB routine outcome will seal her fate in Rio but ofcourse she bombed and pretty much everyone is conviced that she is done. Can she redeem her self? I think if she gets back her Amanar and continue to be useable on UB and floor she has 40% of making the Rio team.

3. Pavlova- Alexandrov made it clear that she doesnt want any of the older girls on the team and needs to build russia with the younger girls(Aliya's group). Pavlova wasnt totally useless in fact she won several vault titles under Alexandrov and was useful on beam and floor but her inconsistency didnt sit well with Alexandrov. And ofcourse she injured her knee.

4. Koko Tsurumi- She wasnt really blacklisted but her rumored disagreements with then Ukranian head coach put her on a bad position on the national team. At one time it was rumored she didnt even had motivation to continue.

5. Yesenia Ferrera- Rumor say that she is blacklisted in the cuban team although she also injured her knee that could explain her disappearance.

6. Hong Su Jong- After the age scandal she literally went MIA. who knows if she is still alive.

7. Catalina Ponor and some romanian girls- Didnt Ponor had a disagreement with some romanian coaches before? Obviously she was too good for them to ban her

Blacklisted Athletes

Favourite things/ biggest disappointments from World's

Favourite things:
-Vika having an amazing UB routine and fighting to stay on beam in event finals
- Paseka getting Vault Gold
- Gabby making a good comeback
- Larissa having a good AA competition
- Whitlock and Smith going 1 and 2 in Pommel final
- Leyva redeeming himself in the high bar final
- GB doing so well in team events
- Afan still slaying on floor

Biggest disappointments:
- Steingruber getting hurt in vault final
- Russia having a disastrous team competition
- Larisa and Romania not qualifying for Olympics yet
- Zonderland not being in the high bar final
- Vika's ill advised comments about the U.S. Girls

Favourite things/ biggest disappointments from World's

Variations in tumbling

I was wondering what everyone's opinions were on the variety (or lack thereof) of tumbling on floor. One floor routine that really stood out for me in Glasgow was Maggie Nichols because it was literally four double back variations (taking nothing from Maggie - I think she's exceptionally talented.) I personally prefer a routine with several variations of tumbles (eg double backs, double fronts, twisting.) I get that gymnasts may prefer to work to their strengths - but I feel like gymnasts who offer a lot of variation in their routines go unrewarded. What do you guys think?

Variations in tumbling

Arthur Gander Memorial 2015

Because the next competition after Worlds is never far away.

Taking place 4th November (Wednesday) at 19:30 local time


Featuring among others:

WAG: Enus Mariani, Pauline Schäfer, Diana Bulimar, Larisa Iordache, Anastasia Dmitrieva, Alexa Moreno

MAG: Kazuma Kaya, Oleg Verniaiev, Andreas Bretschneider, Christian Baumann, Oliver Hegi


Website: http://ift.tt/1RsbyFx

Arthur Gander Memorial 2015

Worlds is over

Its amazing how quiet the board has gone, now we have to wait a bit until any major competition its a bit depressing.

Worlds is over

Qualifiers to 2016 Olympics and Olympic Test Event

Info courtesy of TAA.

http://ift.tt/1LNcBy5

Direct qualifiers to the Olympics.

MEN

Teams
1. Japan
2. Great Britain
3. China
4. Russian Federation
5. United States
6. Switzerland
7. Brazil
8. Republic of Korea

Individuals
(Nominative)
1. Rayderley Zapata (ESP)*
2. Harutyun Merdinyan (ARM)
3. Eleftherios Petrounias (GRE)
4. Ri Se Gwang (PRK)
5. Marian Dragulescu (ROU)*
6. Oleg Verniaiev (UKR)*
7. Oleg Stepko (AZE)
8. Manrique Larduet (CUB)


WOMEN

Teams
1. United States
2. Russian Federation
3. Great Britain
4. China
5. Italy
6. Japan
7. Canada
8. Netherlands

Individuals
(Nominative)
1. Hong Un Jong (PRK)
2. Pauline Schaefer (GER)*

*Place allocated only if gymnast’s federation does not
qualify a team at the Test Event.

Qualifiers to 2016 Olympics and Olympic Test Event

Best leotards

Which leos did people like the best? Which were the worst?

Best leotards

Maggie Nichols Appreciation Thread

This doesn't need to stay on the front page after Worlds or anything. There's too many special individual gymnasts for that to happen. But just for a couple days...this is for Swags and anyone who wants to add their appreciation for her.

Awesome consistency. Steady 4-event strong AA gymnast. Proved she COULD have medalled in the AA final. And pulled out an EF medal at the end of it.

She's obviously so hard working and determined, I'm excited to see if she can improve next year. Can she improve her Amanar form? Can she get her Nationals beam difficulty consistent? What else can she do to improve and upgrade?

I adore Simone, but Maggie is keeping things interesting in an American world that would otherwise be set with nothing but Biles-dominance and the already-famous comeback kids. Maggie is a bit of a weird wild card thrown in and could be a spoiler for someone. Can she get better?

(Pretty please for dissenters: there's plenty of room for anti-MN in the other threads. This is just a brief thread for those who want to cheer her on. Thank u!)

Maggie Nichols Appreciation Thread

How do Biles, Liukin, Miller rank now

I think at this point it is pretty clear Biles, Miller, and Liukin are the top 3 U.S gymnasts of all time in any particular order. How would you rank them after these worlds. I would rank Biles as the best American gymnastic in history now, Shannon as 2nd, and Nastia at 3rd.

How do Biles, Liukin, Miller rank now

Deng Shudi would beat Kohei if both hit 6 for 6, also someone should do his wikipedia

It is amazing poor Deng doesnt even have a wikipedia page done. Could someone here do it for him, as he deserves to have one:

http://ift.tt/1KQo2RI

Also if he and Kohei hit 6 for 6 in an AA event Deng would probably win. Both at their best Deng is better on pommel horse, rings, and parallel bars, they are about equal on floor and vault, and Kohei is better on high bar. The team final of the 2014 worlds proves this as Deng's higher scoring potential was the difference. Taking into account his major errors he was scoring higher per routine than Kohei was which is why Japan lost there.

Deng Shudi would beat Kohei if both hit 6 for 6, also someone should do his wikipedia

Worlds videos

Anyone know where to find videos not shown on the feed of team finals or all around finals. FIG only posted qualification videos and I have searched YouTube with no luck. I am looking for Canada's videos and a few team GB videos that weren't shown on the feed

Thanks

Worlds videos

Is gymnastics loosing it's creditability?

Is gymnastics loosing it's creditability? Four way tie on bars???? Really????? HOW DID FAN WITH A 6.9 START VALUE NOT WIN??? Vault controversy? Hong vs Paseka

Is gymnastics loosing it's creditability?

Worlds Event Finals Day 2 - Nov. 1

WELL after the craziness of today, what does Day 2 have in store for us? A 5-way tie for beam gold?

For those who missed it, Fasana is out of FX, and SongSong will compete. It is also likely that Steingruber is out, and thus we will get to see LIEKEEEEEE which is awesome but heartbreaking all at once. Has it been confirmed yet?

Here is the draw for tomorrow:
http://ift.tt/1RFrLXG

Now if Seda and Afan both win gold, it means the entire Russian team will have won a gold except Kharenkova.

Excited to see Dragulescu, Stepko, Vernaiev, and some more Mandrake as well.

Worlds Event Finals Day 2 - Nov. 1

Way Too Early Rio Predictions

U.S.A
Biles
Douglas
Nichols
Kocian
Raisman or Raisman substitute (Foberg? Smith?)

Russia
Komova
Mustafina
Afanasyeva
Paseka
Tutkhalyan

China
Shang
Yao
Wang
Mao
Huang

Romania
Ponor
Izbasa
Iordache
Bulimar
Jurca

Way Too Early Rio Predictions

Simone's D-Scores 2013, 2014, and 2015?

Hey everyone,

Since a lot of us are trying to figure out what upgrade Biles might have in store, I thought it would be useful to look at her D-scores over the past few years and look at how she upgraded from 2013-2014 and 2014-now. But I'm having a really hard time finding her D-scores each year (or for a competition or two each year) laid out straightforwardly. Can anyone either provide me with them, or give me a link to somewhere that has these?

Thank you!

Simone's D-Scores 2013, 2014, and 2015?

Worlds Event Finals Day 1 - Oct. 31

After all the craziness of the last few days, what do EFs have in store for us?!

I was looking at the draws today, and realized I need everybody in VT final to medal. This is going to be an issue. I literally want Simone, Paseka, Giulia, Ellie and Giulia to medal, at least.
For UB I also need everyone to medal...

I also hope Mandrake medals on one of his EFs, because he needs to go to Rio FOR CERTAIN and these rules are stupid :mad:
Pommels and Rings will be weird without Berki and Zanetti.

I hope it's a clean day and not a "whoever doesn't fall wins!" type of day.

Here is the draw for tomorrow:
http://ift.tt/1irPxdz

Worlds Event Finals Day 1 - Oct. 31

Worlds Judging Assignments

I was noticing that the US has not had any judges in any phase of the women's competition aside from Tatiana Perskaia being the line judge on vault in qualification. How are judges assigned? Is this normal? Russia, Romania, China, etc.. have had a judge at some point.. I'm curious..

Worlds Judging Assignments

MAG All-Around Final - Chat

Only three hours to go so I thought I'd start the thread now!

Will King Kohei reign supreme again? Will Oleg be able to put pressure on him or will he succumb to pressure himself? Who will be battling it out for medals?

MAG All-Around Final - Chat

2015 Worlds WAG All Around BB finals - FALLs

Did I count right? Did the All Around 2015 WAG finals counted 19 falls?

I was at the SSE Hydro arena, and the reflection of the harsh lights on the floor was making it very hard on my eyes. I can only imagine for the athletes. The beam was the very same color as the mat and was reflecting so much light that it seemed impossible to actually see the beam...

Was it 19 falls? Is this a BB record on worlds AA finals? Did anyone complain?

2015 Worlds WAG All Around BB finals - FALLs

Simone Biles Appreciation - 3x Queen of Gymnastics!!!

So happy for Simone! She unifies us as we all seem to love her.

Anyone doesn't love Simone?

What are we expecting from her in 2016?

VT: The Cheng
UB: Upgrades, maybe the dismount?
BB: Will probably stay the same
FX: Upgrades, where?

Simone Biles Appreciation - 3x Queen of Gymnastics!!!

US Stocks

So which stocks would you be investing for 2016?

1) Simone Biles - stock stayed the same. I mean, she's the best in the world, she's still the best in the world, now she has the three-peat, but her stock remains pretty solid. This is a solid investment.

2) Gabrielle Douglas - stock went up. She performed very well and clinched the silver AA.

3) Maggie Nichols - stock went up. We all know she was capable of this, but hitting 4for4 on the world stage was a stock booster for sure.

4) Aly Raisman - stock went down. It wasn't just about her bad prelims, the judges were hammering her BB and FX and that's concerning for Aly. She was closer to Maggie on FX than to Simone - which was more expected.

5) Kocian - stock went a little up. She did what was asked for her, but still proved that she could just as well be a leadoff on FX and BB. Very consistent. EF medal will help her case.

6) Dowell - stock down. No need to comment.

7) Skinner - stock stays the same.

What would we say about the stocks of Ross, Key, Baumann, Dennis, Hernandez, Forberg, Faltely, etc... after this Team and AA comp?

US Stocks

WAG AA final where to watch- help

Maybe somebody has a good idea: where can I watch the WAG AA final (and the other finals too) online? (I am in Europe) :confused:
It is good even if it is a replay, not in real time. I would love, love to see them <3

WAG AA final where to watch- help

U.S mens and womens Olympic teams

I would like a place we can start some early discussion about the Olympic teams next year. After seeing the Team competitions at these worlds it will be interesting.

I could easily see the womens Rio team being the 5 we have here (minus Dowell obviously) with Biles, Nichols, Douglas, Raisman, and Kocian. However there 8-10 others who might have some shot. I see Nichols and Douglas in strong positions now, while Aly and Kocian both could be more vurnerable.

I dont see any of Wynn, Ruggeri, or Brooks being a serious consideration for Rio at all, unless there are injuries again. The early favorites probably would be Mikulak, Leyva, Whittenburg, Naddour, or Dalton. Honestly barring an injury I think that team is almost set, and far more set than the womens team is. It is hard to think of leaving any of those off, while any of the women other than Biles and probably Douglas could be replaced. I mean I could see Yoder stealing Naddour's pommel horse specialist spot I guess, but Naddour is a good all around gymnast too so I think he would still be taken if they were even relatively close. I think the battle for the womens team will be much more intense than the mens will be. I guess if he really proves himself they might take both Naddour and Yoder for pommel horse? If they did that who would be bumped though.

U.S mens and womens Olympic teams

What do you think of all the changes to gymnastics?

Watching old competitions got me thinking.

I also have some questions for the historians and experts on this board, please help.


1. The phenomenal amount of changes in this sport - Is enough time given to the athletes and coaches to adapt?
2. Is Bruno Grandi the gymnastics equivalent of "David Brent" or for Americans "Michael Scott" from "The Office"?


IF I got any dates wrong below please correct.
Also sorry if the post seems long but I have included headings if someone only wants to read certain parts.

The changes like the qualifications system to the Olympics e.g. test event, and the changes to the EGR for each apparatus got me thinking about everything that Bruno & his buddies have done to the sport over say the last 20 years.

For decades 70's, 80's 90's there was not much change. I know more World championships were held (from 4 years to 2 years then every year) but for the most part the sport remained the same apart from 1996 Olympics when 7 gymnasts could compete at the Olympics instead of just 6. In 1997 the age rule was also changed and gymnasts had to be 16 by years' end rather than 15.

The number of gymnasts competing has been cut down every 4 years and now there will be more changes for Tokyo.

1960's/1970's/1980's/1992 Olympics - 6 gymnasts per team and compulsories.
Team Finals 6-up-5-count.


1996 Olympics 7-up-6-count and compulsories.

1997: Age limit upped by one year and FIG got rid of compulsories.
World and Europeans Team size is 6.

2000 Olympics: Team down to 6 members and Team Finals 5 up 4 count.

2001: Worlds & Europeans: 3 up 3 count system introduced for team finals.

2004 & 2008 Olympics: 6 on a team and 3 up 3 count
World and Europeans still follow this format.

2012 Olympics: Team down to 5. TF still 3 up 3 count.
Worlds stay at 6 per team, Euros down to 5.

2016 Olympics: Team still 5. TF still 3 up 3 count.
Worlds & Euros stay as before

2020 Olympics: Team down to 4. TF 4 up 3 count.
2 additional gymnasts from each country can compete for event finals.

Reason? Teams cut from 6 to 5 to make way for more individual slots but I think FIG should have fought this issue with the IOC.

Also the TF 3-up-3-count format: While some like it I can't stand it. It's not fair if a gymnast gets injured, there is no "safety - net". I also think that if Grandi thought that this current format allowed teams from non-powerhouse countries to medal it hasn't worked so far.

I know Australia medalled in 2003 TF but wasn't that because China was fined? And I know that this year UK medalled in TF but this is 14/15 years after this format was introduced. While I am delighted for the girls on the bronze team Russia did make some uncharacteristic mistakes.

I really don't know can we look at just one result of GB winning bronze and claim that 3-up-3-count is a success from this point of view. All other years the top 4, and, certainly the top 3, at least in WAG have been USA, RUS, ROM, and CHN.

Also the open ended scoring.

I'm not really sure there was anything wrong with the 10 system. Just because one incidence in 2004 Olympics happened where Nemov wasn't rewarded for increased difficulty on the high bar I'm not sure it justifies bringing in a new scoring system. FIG just used that as an excuse. No offence against Nemov but he knew that there were only so many marks the judges could give him anyway.

I've said in several threads that competitions are getting boring with the winners being a foregone conclusion. Whoever has the highest difficulty and reasonable consistency is guaranteed a win. There are very few surprises.

While the artistry had been declining even before 2006, I feel that this code does very little to reward it.


EGR - Floor:

Floor used to have more rules about double somersaults, front tumbling and combination tumbling.

I don't know when all these were enforced but now the rules have been relaxed somewhat there is less variety of tumbling on floor e.g. double layout, double back pike and double tuck all in one routine. Why were these rules revoked? Doesn't it show more mastery to be able to combine different skills?



Vault:

I know gymnasts have to do 2 vaults in Event Finals. That hasn't changed as they are specialists.

Up to 1996 Olympics: Athletes used to do 2 vaults for TF (and AA?) and the best was chosen (remember Moceanu and Strugg in Atlanta?).

2000 Sydney Olympics:
For AA: Gymnasts had to do 2 and the vaults were averaged. Not sure about TF.
Now I need some help here but did these 2 vaults have to be different or the same?

2004 Olympics gymnasts did 1 vault in TF and AA.
Now for Event Finals the vaults could be both backward or forwards e.g. Rosu won with Amanar and DTT.

From 2005/6 on the vaults for EF then had to be in a different direction meaning that gymnasts had to learn a new vault in a hurry if they didn't happen to have 2 vaults, one forwards and one backwards. e.g. Sacramone already had a Rudi and a DTY whereas Pavs had to learn a forward vault (at least that is what I read).

Now this rule is gone from 2013 (?). Why bother to bring it in the first place?

Qualification for the Olympics:

I am very glad that there is a test event. However why was this not brought in sooner? Did the IOC try to get FIG to introduce Test Events?

If a gymnast didn't come from a country that had a chance to qualify for a team spot then how did they qualify in the past?
Didn't FIG encourage event specialists but they couldn't qualify for the Olympics? For example Pegan from Slovenia had competed for years yet has never been to an Olympics (he has retired now). In 2007 only gold medallists from World Championships event finals could qualify for Beijing 2008 then this was changed to all medallists for 2011.

All-Around/Event-Finals
Also the FIG's constant change from AA to EF and back to AA. For example by having 6 on a team but in 3 up format a country could have a good selection of AA'ers and event specialists. Now FIG is limiting a team to 4 where they have to be All-arounders leaving event specialists out of a team medal. What is the reason for this?

I appreciate that all sports evolve and sometimes for a very good reason. But I can't think of any other sport which has so many changes in such a short space of time.

Have all the changes made the sport more popular? Is it making it more fair on the athletes and coaches?

What do you think of all the changes to gymnastics?

GBR Appreciation Thread- 2015 Worlds and Stronger

There may already be a GBR thread but if so, I don't know where it is, so I thought they deserved to have one on the front page.

Congratulations on the bronze and thanks for making something exciting in the team final.

From: an American who is an old fan of Annika Reeder, a big fan of Beth Tweddle and Ruby Harrold, and a growing fan of the Downies and Fragapane. Will be rooting for more success in the days to come. Anyway, congrats.

GBR Appreciation Thread- 2015 Worlds and Stronger

USA vs the world

This was the name of a scam of a comp after Atlanta which was rigged for mag 7 fanchildren.

Now the day has come when the USA would win it even with legit judging, at least under 6-3-3. I think the world team needs like 10-3-3 to win eg

VT
Wang
Hong
Paseka

UB
Fan
Komova
Spiridonova

BB
Wang/Komova
Kharenkova/Wevers/Shang
Iordache

FX
Miyakawa
Wang/Iordache
Afanasyeva/Fragapane

The other option to even things out and make the TF interesting again is to make Biles a non-affiliated FIG deity who is donated to a random team for TF (lucky draw)

USA vs the world

Women's all around ticket

Hi all,

I have a spare ticket for the women's all around on Thursday since one of my friends dropped out. If anyone is looking for a ticket I'm looking to sell for its face value (£60). PM me if anyone's interested 😀

Women's all around ticket

WAG All - Around 2015

Can't wait for it. I know MAG TF is tomorrow and that will keep me going but I am really hoping Iordache and Steingruber can medal on Thursday.

I think Biles winning without falls is probably a forgone conclusion but I'd like to see a good fight for silver and bronze.

I don't want to see any falls!

WAG All - Around 2015

WAG TF Viewing help!!

Hi,

I'm in Australia and don't want to go through all the threads trying to find a link to watch the TF as I don't want to accidentally find out the results! Does anyone have a link to where I can watch the coverage of TF please? I can't seem to find it on youtube. Thanks so much for your help!

WAG TF Viewing help!!

Hope for FIG? Japanese Gymnastics Association for FIG President

http://ift.tt/1O5rI9Q

I hope this happens because Georges Guelzec sounds like another Bruno Grandi in the making.

Hope for FIG? Japanese Gymnastics Association for FIG President

MAG Team finals - Oct 28th

USA lineups:

Still rings: Naddour, Whittenburg, Wynn
Vault: Ruggeri, Whittenburg, Naddour
Parallel bars: Ruggeri, Whittenburg, Leyva
Horizontal bar: Brooks, Ruggeri, Leyva
Floor exercise: Whittenburg, Naddour, Ruggeri
Pommel horse: Leyva, Whittenburg, Naddour

Gotta say, I’m cringing at the thought of Naddour on both floor and vault. I'd take Brooks' double front instead.

Ruggeri not getting the Brenna treatment on high bar it seems. Hoping for the best for him.

PH isn't going to be pretty no matter who you put up.

MAG Team finals - Oct 28th

Vault animation

This animation is part of a project I've worked on for a while. There's currently one for each women's event. Tell me what you think, and thanks for looking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-tML8WOmeg

Vault animation

GAGE Meltdowns

In speaking to Dowell's performance in qualifications reminded me of Courtney McCool's meltdown at the 2004 Olympics. She won the test event the year before and had so much buzz about her possibly medaling in the AA. She starting to come unraveled when she peeled off UB in prelims at the 2004 US Championships, then went on to balm floor and beam at the 04 Olympics. She also was not chosen to compete in the AA. I wonder if Marta is beginning to lose faith in the GAGE girls. I also remember the whole fiasco with Ivana Hong and her last year at GAGE. She started to come unraveled at the 08 Olympic Trials. What do you think is the reason for this?

GAGE Meltdowns

WAG Team Finals - Oct. 27

USA just released their line-ups. MAGGIE is doing AA!

VT: Douglas, Nichols, Biles
UB: Nichols, Douglas, Kocian
BB: Nichols, Raisman, Biles
FX: Nichols, Raisman, Biles

As expected, Dowell is out of everything, and they are going for the clean DTY with Gabby.

WAG Team Finals - Oct. 27

Old World Championships - compulsories.

While looking at the results from the Olympics and World Championships, 1950-96, i noticed that 8 of the 25 All-Around gold medal winners in women's gymnastics were leading the competition after compulsories.

There are a further 4 results that i don't have details for, all from the World Championships - Rakoczy 1950, Roudiko 1954, Latynina 1958, Latynina 1962.

Does anyone here know if they were leading the competition after compulsories?

Old World Championships - compulsories.

MAG Qualifications Day 2

Surprised Milktea hasn't started this yet considering Oleg is about to come out:p In the first subdivision we have Ukraine, France, and Hungary. All of the medalist on pommels last year is in this subdivision. Not a lot of people here right now but there will be a lot of great gymnastics in this subdivision!

MAG Qualifications Day 2

Does This Code Work?

It just seems as though I have be thoroughly unimpressed and bored with gymnastics lately. Every beam routine (which, if we go back to the 90s was my favorite event) is the exact same. Floor is just a bunch of chucked dance skills and tumbling, with the exception of the few girls who's body can handle it, seems to be getting weaker and weaker. Actually UB is mostly the same now too, and everyone has been doing DTY forever.

Obviously "similar routines" to abuse the code has always been, and will always be, and issue. But at least in the past it looked decent. Maybe it's just me, but I have lost so much interest in this last quad.

Should we have max D scores? Should we only count 6 skills? Do we just have a poor quad for gymnastics (minus USA)? Am I blowing things out of proportion?

Does This Code Work?

MAG Qualification Day 1

Start list/line ups:
http://ift.tt/1GoTsUi

Subdivision 1: BRA, GBR, PUR, CHI, NZL, SYR, RSA, PHI, CZE, LTU, ALG, GUA

Subdivision 2: GER, RUS, SUI, PRK, CYP, HGK, KUW, JOR, POR, SRB

Subdivision 3: JPN, CHN, BEL, SLO, EGY, POL, VEN, MAS, BAH, DEN, IRL

Subdivision 4: KOR, GRE, COL, AZE, UZB, JAM, ISR, DOM, AUT, SVK

USAGym will be livestreaming subdivisions 1 and 3.

MAG Qualification Day 1

The Glasgow bye girl thread

I feel with all the drama going on in the qualifications round, this could be somewhat cathartic. Who won't make it out of prelims this year and it comes as a shock (or a big disappointment) to you?


Let me start with:

Marta Pihan
Jessica Lopez
Chusovitina
Videaux
Bulimar (Didiiiiiiii...)
Phan Thi Ha
Claire Martin


The list will keep on adding through out the day. Seitz is currently in 18th in the AA so she could very well make her exit too since there's no TF for Germany.

The Glasgow bye girl thread

New submitted skills 2015

Thanks to Heather:

http://ift.tt/1NswZ8d

New submitted skills 2015

WAG qualifications DAY 2

Schedule

09:15 Sub 7: PRK, CHN
11:25 Sub 8: KOR, BEL
13:45 Sub 9: FRA, AUS
16:30 Sub 10: NED, USA
18:30 Sub 11: GRE, MEX
20:30 Sub 12: HUN, SUI


Live streams

Sub 7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6k7PBGgeb4

Sub 10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7pyZPf6fKU


Live scoring

http://ift.tt/1W8QgOc

http://ift.tt/1LRD7rp

WAG qualifications DAY 2

I ran into aliya mustafina at the airport

Man do I have a crazy story for you guys. So I am currently in Glasgow but I was in London because I had a layover there. So when I get off the plane in Glasgow I see FREAKING ALIYA MUSTAFINA! I was freaking the F out inside. I was walking behind her and I see her two female coaches she was with go into the bathroom but she didn't so I asked for a picture! I walk up to her and was like, you are Aliya right? And she was like what. And I was like you're Aliya Mustafina right and she said yes. Then I asked for a picture and she was really nice and took a couple with me. And then in the baggage claim I saw Arkeyev! He was actually right next to me at one point but I was too scared to say anything lol. And then when I left the airport I saw her again and went up to her and said good luck and Davai Russia and she said thank you! I was in shock when I saw her I literally died I was so happy. Hopefully this is a good indication of the days ahead:)

I ran into aliya mustafina at the airport

WAG qualifications DAY 1

It's starting in less than 24 hours now... tic toc tic toc ;) :D :o


To think that this moment, most of us wait for the whole year... It's better than Christmas to most of us gym nerds. Hope you've been good otherwise your favourite gymnast WILL fall (just kidding). Here's the info that I've gathered, but if there's important stuff missing, please feel free to add anything.

All times are in GMT local time:

9 AM: ROM
11 AM-ish: JPN
??? CAN
4PM-ish: GBR + BRA
5.45PM-ish: RUS + ITA
8PM-ish: GER + POL


PS: USAG will broadcast the bolded ones on its youtube channel. Is FIG broadcasting quals this year or not?

WAG qualifications DAY 1

Back to the Future thread

It was exactly October 21, 2015 at 4:21PM Pacific Daylight Time when Marty McFly and Doc Brown arrived in Hill Valley, California. In the real 2015, there are no flying cars yet and even the Chicago Cubs didn't advance the World Series.

Any Back to the Future fans here?

Back to the Future thread

Best Routine No One Saw - Worlds 2015

I was looking through the various vids of PT routines posted around the gymternet, and I couldn't help but thinking how sad it is that some of these lovely routines will never see the light of day in any sort of official coverage, usually because the competitor is not from the Big 4 and/or because lovely doesn't get you as far as it used to in gymnastics. If you see a routine that deserves a hand, please nominate it here along with a few words about why.

I'll get the ball rolling with Eythora Thorsdottir's floor, which is beautiful because of its musicality and notable because she actually bends and moves through her back, as opposed to ramrod straight which is what we often get:

Best Routine No One Saw - Worlds 2015

2015 World Championships Glasgow Podium Training MAG 21-22 October

I wanted to start this thread, and I'm not sure if this has been posted anywhere (lots of WAG talk these last few days), but Leyva said on his tumblr that he will be doing AA at Worlds!

Schedule:

10/21/2015
SUB 1 - 4:15 am - 7:25 am - Puerto Rico | Brazil | Great Britain
SUB 2 - 7:45 am - 10:50 am - Germany | Russia | Switzerland
SUB 3 - 11:40 am - 2:45 pm - China | Belgium | Japan
SUB 4 - 3:00 pm - 6:00 pm - South Korea | Greece | Columbia

10/22/2015
SUB 5 - 4:15 am - 7:05 am -France | Ukraine | Hungary
SUB 6 - 7:30 am - 10:30 am - Canada | Spain | Mexico
SUB 7 - 11:30 am - 2:40 pm - USA | Netherlands | Belarus
SUB 8 - 3:00 pm - 6:00 pm - Italy | Romania | Chinese Taipei

2015 World Championships Glasgow Podium Training MAG 21-22 October

remembrance leotard

Excuse my ignorance but as someone that doesn't live in America, my knowledge of US tragedies isn't very strong.

However, I do remember an NCAA team wearing leotards at super six I think that had names or dates of an incident that had recently happened in their state as a remembrance type thing.

Which team was this (I wanna say alabama/oklahoma, but could be completely off) and what was the incident (I feel it was a natural tradgedy).

TIA

remembrance leotard

Chuso!!!!

I gasped when I saw the story on the home page. Chuso is doing the double front at worlds?!?! If she lands that I will go freakin' nuts. That woman is unbelievable.

Chuso!!!!

Glider Elite qualifier 2

Gym Compulsory Optional
Metroplex 4 7
Midwest Gymnastics 1 1
Oakland Gymnastics 4 4
Paramount Elite 4 5
Parkettes 5 6
Prattville YMCA 1 1
Precision 2 2
Premier West 3 3
Prestige 3 4
Rebound 3 3
SCEGA 1 1
Stars (TX) 1 1
Texas Dreams 6 6
Top Notch Training Center 3 4
Will-Moor Gymnastics 3 3
WAitlist
WOGA
World Champions Centre
AIM Athletics
Zenith Elite
Golden State
United Elite

Glider Elite qualifier 2

Gliders Elite qualifier 1

Gym Compulsory Optional
ACCEL 1 1
Adrenaline 2 2
Aerial Athletics 6 6
All American (SD) 2 2
All Stars 1 1
American Twisters 8 8
Atlantic Coast 2 2
Auburn 3 3
Azarian 2 2
Bright Stars Gymnastics 2 2
First State 5 6
Flyaways 1 1
Georgia All Stars 2 2
Girls Co-Op 2
Gliders 1 1
Gold Cup 1 1
Gym Jam 1 1
IGI 5 7
M&M 6 6
Matrix 4

Gliders Elite qualifier 1

2015 World Gymnastics Video Master List - Updated 10/18/15 6:09 PM EST

Updating as the meet progresses.

http://www.youtubegymnasticsarchive....pionships.html

2015 World Gymnastics Video Master List - Updated 10/18/15 6:09 PM EST

2015 World Championships Glasgow Podium Training WAG 19-20 October

Because Worlds are almost there!

Monday 19/10
09:15-11:15 Subdivision 1 (ESP, UZB KAZ, NOR PAN CYP, ROU)
11:30-13:30 Subdivision 2 (JPN, AUT, ISR SVK ECU MGL, GEO UKR)
13:40-15:40 Subdivision 3 (BOL SRB LTU, CAN, ARG NZL, SWE)
16:30-18:30 Subdivision 4 (TTO URU PHI, VEN FIN, GBR, BRA)
18:45-20:40 Subdivision 5 (POR PUR, ITA, ISL MAR, RUS)
20:50-22:50 Subdivision 6 (COL BAH ALG, POL, GER, CRO SLO)

Tuesday 20/10
09:15-11:15 Subdivision 7 (MON DOM CAY, SIN CHI GUA, PRK, CHN)
11:25-13:25 Subdivision 8 (TUR MLT, KOR, AZE VIE INA, BEL)
13:40-15:40 Subdivision 9 (CUB BLR TPE, PER BUL, FRA, AUS)
16:30-18:30 Subdivision 10 (LAT IRL, NED, IND, USA)
18:40-20:40 Subdivision 11 (DEN EGY, GRE, MAS NAM, MEX)
20:50-22:50 Subdivision 12 (HUN, SUI, CZE HON ARM, JAM RSA)

Participants

Here are a few videos from training already. More will be coming up later this evening. https://www.youtube.com/user/piibunina/videos

2015 World Championships Glasgow Podium Training WAG 19-20 October

World's New Skills List

I am not sure when the list of submitted new skills comes out, but per a UCLA article, Danusia Francis has submitted a side aerial to one leg on beam to be named after her... and it looks awesome!

http://ift.tt/1MHgnv4

World's New Skills List

2015 Worlds Prediction Game - Sixth Time's the Charm!

IT’S WORLDS! WHICH MEANS IT’S CONTEST TIME!!!

I’m trying something new this year! Instead of having everyone post their predictions here on the forum and then me have to hand-copy them into my spreadsheet, I’m utilizing the power of Google Forms to simplify the process.

I’ve started this thread a little early because I’d like help testing the new form so we can hopefully get any kinks sorted out beforehand. I’d like to test for a few days; until maybe Monday or so.

Click HERE to access the TEST Predictions form!
Click HERE to view the TEST Response webpage
Click HERE to view the TEST Response spreadsheet

Some things I’d like to test:

- Submitting a response, and then saving the link and using that link the next day to edit your response
- Try to submit two predictions with the same username (or just two predictions from the same computer)
- Verify that all the information in the spreadsheet is correct

New info for when the official contest does go live:
- I will NOT be accepting ANY forum submissions for predictions as long as the form is working well. If you post your predictions in this thread but do not submit them via the webform, your responses will NOT be entered and recorded.
- PLEASE save a hard copy of your predictions elsewhere in case the spreadsheet goes paflooey. I suggest copying them into this thread, but remember that I will NOT be using them as your official predictions unless something goes wrong (and I will notify everyone if that is the case).

Rules for the actual point tallying are the same as before, which I will quote below:

Quote:

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The rules are really simple. You post your predictions for the medal podium of each event, plus one alternate per podium.

Points
5 points --- each correct medal prediction
2.5 points --- each correct top 3 prediction, but incorrect medal prediction
.5 point --- if your alternate wins a medal.

For example, in '10 this was my AA prediction:

AA:
1 Musty
2 Bross
3 Aly
Alt: Jiang Yuyuan

The actual result was 1st: Musty, 2nd: Jiang, 3rd Bross. I received 5 points for correctly predicting Musty's medal position, 2.5 points for putting Bross on the podium but in the wrong position, and .5 points for having my alternate Jiang medal, for a total of 8 points. I didn't receive any points for Aly, since she didn't make the podium.

In the case of a tie for a medal, you still only receive points for each correct PLACEMENT. If Kyla and Simone tie in AA and you had them 1-2, you would receive 7.5 points for correctly predicting the gold medalist but incorrectly predicting the silver medalist (which would correctly be no one). If you like to tempt fate, feel free to put ties as your prediction BUT you may not have more than 3 people per podium plus one alternate (i.e. no eight way tie for gold! :p ;) )

Predictions are locked a day or so after prelims are completed, with NO EDITING ALLOWED. This gives everyone the best idea of who will be competing for the medals, but does not account for last minute substitutions due to federation swapping or injury. You are not required to predict your podium out of the official start list but may substitute anyone as you see fit; heck, put anyone on there! Do as you please. :)

The contest will run for WAG and MAG, and then one combined for those who submit in both categories. You are free to predict all the events or just a few; whatever you like. :) No deducting points for wrong answers, so why not? ;)

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Once the form goes live, predictions will CLOSE at 1pm CST October 27th. You are welcome to make any changes to your predictions up until that point, but not after. Absolutely no editing or substitutions after the closing time will be allowed, so make sure you double and triple check! :)



Looking forward to another fun year!

History:
Originator: Kennedy
2010 Worlds - Winner: Moi! :D
2011 Worlds - WAG Winner: utesrockthehouse / MAG Winner: nlm2183 / Overall: JennFyre
2012 Olympics - WAG Winner: euphrosyna / MAG Winner: schood85 / Overall: schood85
2013 Worlds - WAG Winner: piday / MAG Winner: kochetkovafan / Overall: kochetkovafan
2014 Worlds - WAG Winner: London2012 / MAG Winner: FlippinTitan10 / Overall: kanaevafan

2015 Worlds Prediction Game - Sixth Time's the Charm!

so nice to see Antonina Koshel again!

I was pleasantly surprised to come onto this site and see an article featuring Antonina Koshel, complete with picture! She was a lesser light on the 1972 Soviet team (if one could apply that word to anybody on that legendary team). I am glad she is well and still involved in gymnastics. She was even featured in Dance magazine way back when the '72 team toured the US after the Olympics. In her photo she was doing an absolutely gorgeous split jump, which led me to believe that what someone said about that team was true--the "last" girl on the Soviet team could easily be the first girl on any other world team. It would be nice to hear what the other surviving members of that team are doing now.

so nice to see Antonina Koshel again!

2016 competion schedule

Please add any updates or info you have, particularly for junior meets, national / continental championships:



Artistic Gymnastics World Cups:

Newark (USA) 5 March 2016
Glasgow (GBR) 12 March 2016
Stuttgart (GER) 19-20 March 2016

Artistic Gymnastics World Challenge Cups + major meets:

Baku (AZE) 19-21 February 2016
March 5-6 L'International Gymnix 2016 MONTREAL (CAN)
Doha (QAT) 24-26 March 2016
Cottbus (GER) 31 March – 3 April 2016
April 8-10 Pacific Rim Championships 2016 EVERETT (USA)
April 16-24 Second Olympic Qualification Test Event Rio De Janei)
Osijek (CRO) 5-8 May 2016ro (BRA
Varna (BUL) 13-15 May 2016
Sao Paulo (BRA) 20-22 May 2016
May 25-29 European Championships Men Senior and Junior. Bern (SUI)
Jun 1-5 European Championships Women Senior and Junior. Bern (SUI)
Anadia (POR) 23-26 June 2016
Ljubljana (SLO) date to be confirmed
Jun 24-26 2016 U.S. Olympic Team Trials Men St. Louis
Jul 8-10 2016 U.S. Olympic Team Trials Women St. San Jose (USA)[/COLOR]

Aug 5 - 21 Games of the XXXI Olympiad 2016 Rio De Janero

Late october: Arthur Gander memorial
Early November: Swiss cup
Mid November: Massilia cup
Mid November: Blume memorial
Early December: Accapulco open
Mid December: Voronin cup

2016 competion schedule

1987 World Championship Flashback - Romania wins gold in Team, AA , UB, BB, and FX

Perhaps the best World Championships for Romania of all time?! This team was unbeatable.

Team

1987 World Championship Flashback - Romania wins gold in Team, AA , UB, BB, and FX

World's Coverage

Posting this link. Just would like to verify, the times listed will be local, ie Scottish time, right? And the US's EST is 6 hours behind?

http://ift.tt/1N8S3jS

Feel free to post any coverage information you have here.

The provide a youtube link here as well: http://ift.tt/1FfBuMZ

World's Coverage

WAG CoP 2017 proposal

Updated today

http://ift.tt/1JWtfqE

One-handed vaults get a 2.00 deduction again

CR 2.00 points instead of 2.50

Beam:
no forward/sidewards salto requirement anymore (not that it matters because all gymnasts are doing aerials anyway)
mount without DV -0.10
"remove [insert skill symbol I don't understand] because all gymnasts are performing it with a Barani technique" I assume they are talking about the front half, which was discussed here a few days ago as well.

Floor:
CR: salto backwards and forwards within an acro line. To fulfill CR salto must take off from two feet. Yay, no cheated front tumbling anymore!



It would be very helpful if someone who understands all those symbols that stand for skills could de-code them.

WAG CoP 2017 proposal

International Match: GER-BRA-SUI (WAG) / GER-KOR-SUI (MAG)

It'll take place on Saturday, 10-10-2015, in Dessau, Germany.

1 PM – 3.30 PM MAG
4.30 PM – 6.30 PM WAG

Germany will send their World teams for both the men and women, with the alternates competing as exhibition.
More info (German): http://ift.tt/1LjtMZ9

In my opinion the WAG competition will be particularly exciting as both Germany and Brazil are bubble teams for Worlds, and it'll be interesting to see how they face off. Hopefully we'll get to see Steingruber, too.

International Match: GER-BRA-SUI (WAG) / GER-KOR-SUI (MAG)

Australian Gymnastics Thread

Couldn't find any threads for the Aussie's teams, but my apologies if one exists and I totally missed it.

Anyways, what I was wanting to post was this news about Larrissa Miller, who a few months ago, opened up about her childhood sexual abuse story, and she is now an ambassador for Bravehearts:
http://ift.tt/1Z8YNFf

Since we have been hearing a lot lately of sexual abuse (by coaches; her case is different), I find it great that she spoke up, and hopefully will be an inspiration and a model of courage to other victims. I don't remember seeing it posted anywhere on this forum.

In lighter news, their WAG team for Glasgow is:
Emily Little
Larrissa Miller
Georgia-Rose Brown
Georgia Godwin
Madelaine Leydin
Mary-Anne Monckton
Kiara Munteanu

Really excited for Mez Monckton! I am a bit bummed Nedov didn't make it, but I guess she didn't do too well at the camps, and her season was not really consistent.

Australian Gymnastics Thread

Could the US field two complete worlds teams and win gold and silver??

I'm sitting here reading the American appreciation thread and thinking to myself- If they were allowed to, I really think the US could field two separate worlds teams and win both gold and silver. Our team is that deep.

Do you all agree? Or do you think Russia/Romania/China's "A team" would be able to take silver instead?

Could the US field two complete worlds teams and win gold and silver??

7 judges from 2014 Worlds warned by FIG Disciplinary Commission

Artistic judges in trouble!

But it took a year to get around to this?

http://ift.tt/1FRWXCr

7 judges from 2014 Worlds warned by FIG Disciplinary Commission

Your hopes/wishes for Worlds

Hi everybody,

Worlds are almost upon us! What is everybody wishing/hoping for? (realistic or unrealistic :))

I hope that Komova and Mustafina are both relatively healthy and put on good performances.

I'm hoping for a three-peat from Biles because that would just be so damn neat to see.

And I hope for a beam gold for Iordache.

Your hopes/wishes for Worlds

Swiss Appreciation Thread

Giulia Steingruber's new floor routine -- with a Silivas.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfjbxj7mvKg

Swiss Appreciation Thread

beam skill question

One of my favorite moves was Shannon Miller's gainer layout that landed on one foot. Is it the same rating as a regular gainer layout, a C?
Does anyone know if anyone else did the skill> Did any one do regular back layout to one foot?
Thanks

beam skill question

Belarusian gymnastics saga

We should probably move the topic to its own thread because I'm sure most would prefer to keep the USA thread about the upcoming selection camp and other Worlds matters.

Anyway, here's another twist to the story. Oleg Ostapenko is expected to become the new head coach of the women's team starting in January 2016.

http://ift.tt/1QNuHkD

Belarusian gymnastics saga

Age of the AA competitors in Rio

Hey.. long time lurker of the forum, I hardly ever post despite being a pretty avid follower of the sport. As Worlds is just around the corner (I'm in the UK and can't go due to work :( ) and Rio is ever looming I thought I would start posting again.

One thing that struck me as really unique this quad is the age of the front-runners as we move into Rio. We will have:

Biles, 19 and 5 months during the Games
Douglas, 20 and 8 months
Raisman, 22 and 3 months
Iordache, 20 and 2 months
Mustafina, 21 and 11 months

And then there are the Wildcards like Yao Jinnan and Komova who will also be 21 and a half.

Of course in the grand scheme of things they're all still kids, really. And despite Biles being the clear favourite I find it interesting that the nearest possible threats to her are... *shock* OLDER than 16. The 16 years olds don't seem to stand a chance this year.... though I guess Hernandez could figure if she has Douglas-like rocket ascent in 2016.

Age of the AA competitors in Rio

WAG France/Spain

3rd october in Paris. 4.30pm local time


The competition is closed to the public because it takes place in the gymnasium of the INSEP (National Center). Only those with invitations can go (families, friends, members of the federations). The French federation has scheduled a live or publishing videos on myDartfish. The morning there will be a meeting FRA/GBR MAG.

France

Camille Bahl
Marine Brevet
Loan His
Claire Martin
Valentine Pikul
Louise Vanhille
Anne Kuhm
Grâce Charpy

Spain

Claudia Colom
Maria Paula Vargas
Ana Perez
Nora Fernandez
Natalia Ros
Paula Raya
Laura Gamell


http://ift.tt/1iIBIbk

WAG France/Spain

Team Qualification Predictions

Since some teams are starting to be announced...who makes team finals and qualifies a guaranteed full team to Rio?

Last year, Australia was 8th in qualifications with 218.134. The other teams to qualify were USA, China, Russia, GBR, Italy, Japan, and Romania, with Germany and the Netherlands in 9th and 10th.

I think the big four will secure their spots, with Romania most vulnerable to a risky bars meltdown like last year. They are a little deeper on bars this year with Bulimar, Jurca, and Iridon all available, as well as improvements from Ocolisan, and Ponor should make up for the regression from Munteanu and Stanila.

The German team looks much deeper this year, with Seitz in the all around and Scheder and Tratz looking strong. I think they can qualify. GBR seems to have regressed a bit. Fasana and Ferlito both look strong for Italy, and Japan had a great competition at the Asian Games, so I think both those teams are likely.

I haven't seen much of Australia this year, so can't speak to them. I am keeping my fingers crossed for the Netherlands an Brazil!

Team Qualification Predictions

Full Out - Ariana Berlin

Does anyone know where I can watch this movie online? Thanks!

Full Out - Ariana Berlin

2015 Osijek World Challenge Cup

This event begins tomorrow with event qualification.

List of competitors:
http://ift.tt/1QiLsUs

Official page:
http://osijekgym.com/

2015 Osijek World Challenge Cup

Russian Cup 2015

Date: 09/16 - 09/20
Location: Penza, Russia
Live Stream: http://ift.tt/1LfdMrj

WAG Roster
http://ift.tt/1LfdMHM

MAG Roster
http://ift.tt/1QfOjgN

Schedule
9/14 - Day of arrival, training
9/15 - Podium training
9/16 - WAG & MAG Qualifications and Team Finals
9/17 - WAG AA
9/18 - MAG AA
9/19 - MAG FX, PH, SR & WAG VT, UB Event Finals
9/20 - MAG VT, PB, HB & WAG BB, FX Event Finals

Russian Cup 2015

2015 Worlds Team Announcements

Some World teams have already been named, so good time as any to create a thread and add as more teams are announced. I've listed the ones I know about so far. Feel free to add/correct any I might've missed.

Argentina
Ayelén Tarabini
Ailén Valente
Belén Stoffel

Federico Molinari
Nicolás Córdoba
Osvaldo Martínez

Japan
Aiko Sugihara
Natsumi Sasada
Asuka Teramoto
Sakura Yumoto
Yuki Uchiyama
Sae Miyakawa

Kohei Uchimura
Yusuke Tanaka
Ryohei Kato
Kazuma Kaya
Koji Yamamuro
Kenzo Shirai

Mexico
Elsa García
Alexa Moreno
Ana Lago
Amaranta Torres
Karla Retiz
Ahtziri Sandoval

Ukraine
Angelina Kysla
Khrystyna Sankova

USA
Sam Mikulak
Donnell Whittenburg
Danell Leyva
Paul Ruggeri
Brandon Wynn
Alex Naddour

2015 Worlds Team Announcements

Updated 2016 Elite Qualifiers

Dec. 11-13, 2015 - Myrtle Beach Invitational - Myrtle Beach, S.C.
Jan. 15, 2016 - Coaches Spectacular Elite Compulsory qualifier - Cincinnati, Ohio
jan 15 Brestyan’s Invite Compulsory Qualifier
Jan. 22, 2016 - Parkettes Invitational and Elite Compulsory Qualifier – Allentown, Pa.
Jan. 22-24, 2016 - Palm Springs Invitational - Palm Springs, Calif.
Feb. 4, 2016 - Buckeye Classic and Elite Compulsory Qualifier - Columbus, Ohio
March 4-6, 2016 - Tim Rand Invite and Elite Compulsory Qualifier - Ft. Lauderdale, Fla.
Feb. 6-8, 2016 - Glider Invitational and National Qualifier - Ontario, Calif.
Feb. 12-14, 2016 - Brestyan’s Invitational and National Qualifier - Las Vegas, Nev.
March 10-12, 2016 - KPAC Cup - Charlotte, N.C. ( National qualifier)
April 15-16, 2016 Hopes qualifier -Auburn Gymnastics
May 13/14 National qualifier at Ranch
So far as I know
Capebreton586

Updated 2016 Elite Qualifiers

2000 Olympic Medals

Did the bronze medals the girls received come from the Chinese gymnasts, or were new ones made? How could they ensure the medals they got back were the real ones? What if they were beat up? So many questions lol

2000 Olympic Medals

Front aerial with a full twist?

I saw this question another forum and was curious about this myself. Has anyone done an aerial with a full twist on floor? It would look cool and be more interesting than the normal aerial lots of gymnasts are doing to fulfill the requirement.

Front aerial with a full twist?

2015 Junior Japan International

Meet will be Sep. 22nd and 23rd.
List of competitors:
http://ift.tt/1LJBYAE

WAG -
Emily Whitehead (AUS)
Megan Roberts (CAN)
Hannah Jade Chrobok (CAN)
Liu Tingting (CHN)
Lu Yufei (CHN)
Catherine Lyons (GBR)
Lina Philipp (GER)
Carina Kroell (GER)
Chun Mei Cheung (HKG)
Ho Yat Cheung (HKG)
Seojeong Yeo (KOR)
Stefania Orzu (ROU)
Denisa Stanciu (ROU)
Anastasiia Iliankova (RUS)
Elena Eremina (RUS)
Jazmyn Foberg (USA)
Lauren Hernandez (USA)
Natsumi Hanashima (JPN)
Nagi Kajita (JPN)
Koko Dobashi (JPN)
Kiko Kuwajima (JPN)


I'm excited Catherine is going as well!

2015 Junior Japan International

All-American Appreciation Thread - The road to Worlds

There are almost 4,300 posts in the last thread! Time for a new one. This was the last post in the thread:

Quote Originally Posted by zaraa View Post

"you can't compare Simone to gabby because even though simone is on her way to GOAT status she is still relatively unknown in the mainstream world. If in Rio she does as well as it looks like she will very likely be the face of the Rio games and will have the eyes of the whole world on her. She will have journalists everywhere writing on her win and all looking for different takes. You guys forget that after the all around so many newspapers were digging things up about gabby ( her mom's financial history, dad's arrest), I definitely won't think less of Simone if she starts sharing more about her story and hardships because it not about milking it but about telling her own story accurately and on her own terms."


That's a good point, telling it first before a rumor mill starts. Such a shame that's the world we live in. Gabby tried to present her father as this military guy she was proud of and then the whole story changed. I hope the media doesn't try to find Simone's mom, though I'm sure they will. I remember the Russian media even found the birth parents of some American paralympians.

All-American Appreciation Thread - The road to Worlds

Tatiana Nabieva

Nabieva just posted on Facebook an article about millions of Jews being killed in Ukraine during WW2. Her title to the post was, "Big deal! Jews are not people. People are you f**ks" Needless to say, I am not a fan and am horrified.

Tatiana Nabieva

PDF Grace, Gold & Glory

I stumbled upon a free PDF of Gabby's book, Grace, Gold & Glory and thought I'd share with anyone who may be interested.

http://ift.tt/1fOoeJb

It's pretty short and doesn't give much gymnastics detail. And there are plenty of mistakes, like "Jordan Weiber" and calling the junior visa championships JO nationals. But it's free.

If you've read it, share thoughts too.

PDF Grace, Gold & Glory

Tatiana Nabieva anti-semetic

Nabieva just posted on Facebook an article about millions of Jews being killed in Ukraine during WW2. Her title to the post was, "Big deal! Jews are not people. People are you f**ks" Needless to say, I am not a fan and am horrified.

Tatiana Nabieva anti-semetic

MTC thinking of reducing counting skills from 10 to 8

There you have it. Changes would be implemented after Rio.

http://ift.tt/1i1LaXe

MTC thinking of reducing counting skills from 10 to 8

The decline of balance beam

I don't think I am the only one who noticed, but balance beam has certainly become the weakest event in this quad. I actually noticed this in the last quad, though it wasn't as bad as it is now. In the 2006-2008 quad, we were spoiled with many confident beam workers and it seemed even the gymnast that placed in the teens were just as talented as the gymnasts that made event finals. Now it seems gymnasts lack confidence on beam and the routines are no longer original in anyway. Even the top two beam workers in the world, Biles and Iordache, lack confidence and aren't very sharp in their movements. It will be refreshing to see Catalina Ponor back in action on beam because she has that style and confidence we love to see on beam. Hopefully Afanasyeva can start doing beam again by Rio because she has that sharp yet elegant style. I think the CoP has really ruined balance beam in the past two cycles and hopefully for the future cycles they can look back to the past for inspiration.

The decline of balance beam

Marvin Sharp arrested for misconduct and molestation charges

At this point it's probably better to give this topic its own thread since it's a developing story and will be ongoing. I think most would prefer to keep the all-American thread to current gymnastics news, Worlds preparations, etc.

Anyway, here's the latest today:
http://ift.tt/1Iddj2k

Quote:

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A former coach of two 2008 U.S. Olympic gymnasts faces four felony counts of sexual misconduct with a minor and three felony counts of child molestation after being arrested in Indianapolis early Monday morning, according to an online court record.

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He's also been busted for child porn.

Jeremy Brilliant ‏@JeremyWTHR 32m32 minutes ago
FBI: Marvin Sharp collected child porn from 2005-2015. Majority of images showed girls under age 16.

Jeremy Brilliant ‏@JeremyWTHR 30m30 minutes ago
FBI: unclear if gymnastics coach Marvin Sharp produced child porn or just collected it.

Jeremy Brilliant ‏@JeremyWTHR 27m27 minutes ago
Charges against gymnastics coach Marvin Sharp include molesting same girl when she was 12, 13 & 14 yrs old.

Marvin Sharp arrested for misconduct and molestation charges

WHAT in the world is Claire Boyce doing?

so I was just watching the florida vs LSU meet from this season...

Why on earth is claire boyce shrieking through the LSU beam routines? you can see its her at the end of this video and in the full meet coverage you can hear and see her shrieking when the gators are on floor but no surprise not when they're on beam and need to concentrate!

Is she always like this I'm confused at how she could think this was ok? or am i completely missing something?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8FCVgVoqBc

WHAT in the world is Claire Boyce doing?

Kyla ross choosing NCAA over pro

My knowledge on the technicalities in rules behind competing for NCAA are pretty inadequate so i was hoping someone could explain what kyla was entitled to after gold in london.

Being a gold winning team in such a popular sport to the point the group had their own nickname must have been a massive money maker for the girls, but what if anything was kyla allowed to receive? Is it just that she wouldn't have been allowed individual sponsorship but could still except payment for photoshoots/ interviews etc? or would she not have been allowed to except any kind of payment for anything?

I do think it was the best decision to make because I'm sure she's gonna absolutely smash ncaa but i do wonder if she missed out on any substantial pay checks, given how high profile the fierce five were.

Also on another note did jordyn get any kind of scholarship (maybe academic?) for UCLA?

Kyla ross choosing NCAA over pro

Brittany arlington

Was just curious as to what happened to her gymnastics career?

I tried to find out but all i could see was that she joined florida to compete but then didn't her freshman year and then became a manager from then on? was she injured?

Brittany arlington

young gymnast joining agency

I saw on Nastia's instagram that she was showing a little girl around NYC. I found that the little girl is a 5 year old gymnast that is with the Shine Agency. Does signing with the agency mean she can't ever do NCAA? She's a cute girl, but she's 5 so I was just kind of confused as to why she might make such a huge decision at such a young age.

young gymnast joining agency

Laura Cutina Book available

The “Parallel life” novel is a dramatic insight into the life of Laura Cutina, an Olympic champion at the Los Angeles 1984 games. The story takes place in an atrocious communist era, where Ceausescu and his dictatorship have a strong lead on Romania and where sportsmen and women have very little support and are marginalized. Along with her teammates, Laura suffers through everything, from fierce hunger, sometimes leading to fights. The novel is a mix between agony and ecstasy; as both of Laura’s parents die of cancer, and her only sister, in a car accident at the fragile age of 9. She then goes on, with profound scars, with only her love of sport keeping her going. Subsequently, as young as 15, she falls in love with the gymnast Cosmin Daniel Licaciu who was a year older than her. They actually meet while Laura was just 6, in the gymnastics arena, in Bucharest. After 3 years of profound love, their relationship ends. They meet at a championship in Germany, where their romance is restored. Laura was coached by the great Nadia Comaneci, who she adored. For her, Nadia was unique, special and magnificent. Laura participates at many championships, but severly injures herself many times. At 16, she participates at the American Cup, but is defeated by the American Mary Lou Retton. The novel presents the sufferings of Laura Cutina as a young girl as she loses her sister, and then as an adolescent who needed to be strong in her daily life, her career, and in her love life. She loved her boyfriend a lot, although she would always receive letters from all over the globe. At 18, Laura and her boyfriend, Cosmin Daniel, part ways as a result of a conflict and would later on meet 23 years later. A thrilling story full of suffering, but also hope. Laura and Daniel are now married and currently live in Las Vegas, coaching at an arena. They each have two children from their previous marriage.


http://ift.tt/1fsRwg9

Laura Cutina Book available

2015 meet : Romania-France

On saturday 12th september to Izvorani (Romania)
4pm-6pm (local time)

Format : 6/5/4

http://ift.tt/1NIkxQQ

2015 meet : Romania-France

What Is This Floor Music?

Does anyone know what this music is called? Emily Schild used it at this year's Nationals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kywoc_MB8uI

And Alena Polyan also used it at one point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJUFXQK32HA

Thanks in advance.

What Is This Floor Music?

Elite qualifers 2016

Jan. 22, 2016 - Parkettes Invitational and Elite Compulsory Qualifier – Allentown, Pa.

Feb. 4, 2016 - Buckeye Classic and Elite Compulsory Qualifier - Columbus, Ohio

March 4-6, 2016 - Tim Rand Invite and Elite Compulsory Qualifier - Ft. Lauderdale, Fla.

Feb. 6-8, 2016 - Glider Invitational and National Qualifier - Ontario, Calif.
Information

Feb. 12-14, 2016 - Brestyan’s Invitational and National Qualifier - Las Vegas, Nev.
Information

March 10-12, 2016 - KPAC Cup - Charlotte, N.C. ( National qualifier)
Capebreton586

Elite qualifers 2016

Opinions on Kirsten Maloney?

What are your overall views on Kirsten Maloney. She was probably the most consistent U.S gymnast (and taking into account total achievements, as much as it pains me to say it, the most successful U.S gymnast) of that quad. She was the only one who was always 1 of the perceived dominant 2 Americans. Despite her 5th place at the 97 Nationals (where for once her famed consistency went out the window, falling on bars three times over 2 days) I would say she and Atler were considered as clearly the top 2 Americans each of 97, 98, and 99. Although in 98 a case could be made for Moceanu too. Then in 2000 obviously it was she and Ray. She might have even been able to win Nationals 4 times in a row. She obviously could have won in 97, especialy with Atler falling on bars on the 2nd day, and many of the other contenders having mistakes. 2000 she had rocky performances on beam both day, and possibly could have won otherwise, despite that Ray really pulled away from her after that this year.

However internationally she never made a huge impact at the biggest meets. She had a lot of success at meets like Pacific Alliance, Goodwill Games, and such. At Olympics and worlds she was rightfully docked for her hideous form and questionable technique, and she also seemed to be often injured (particularly at 99 worlds and 2000 Olympics) and unable to perform up to her Nationals and earlier season level ever at said events.

I couldn't stand her gymnastics, and found her a major eyesore and a reflection of all that is wrong with the Parkettes training. She was flat out fugly in her work, and I used to have nightmares about her twisting form and her leg form in general. I do respect her throwing some insane difficulty for the time though, generally being extremely consistent with it, and being as tough as nails, performing well and having success with some enormous injuries at times.

Opinions on Kirsten Maloney?

Is making your hobby your job really the best thing?

I have been in love with gymnastics for over 30 years. I have been a coach for 14 and have done it off an on for 7 of those years. But I feel like making it my job has taken a bit of my love away. I love the sport. But every time you think you are doing what is right for child they leave/ get hurt/ have a parent who doesn't understand what is going on and they take it out on you. I love working with kids and gymnastics. It has been successful over the years but now I keep thinking that I am losing the one thing I really love (you know outside of my family.) Anyone have similar thoughts or struggles?

Is making your hobby your job really the best thing?

Experience at Nationals

So I got to attend my first ever major gymnastics meet yesterday. It felt like the same crowd you would find at a Justin Bieber concert. My sister and I are in our mid to late 20's, so we felt a bit out of place at times. We both did gymnastics when we were younger.

We walked by the arena around 5, and I see a bunch of young girls dressed in leos and warmups. I then noticed Al Fong. It was most of the gymnasts arriving in one big group. Nothing like being a few inches from them!

Doors didn't open until 6, but I decided to be sneaky, and ask the security guard where the closet bathroom was. He pointed inside the venue, and let us in. I guess we were technically allowed in early because we have credentials, but it felt scandalous haha. We sat and waited around. I then saw Sam Peszek walk by, and I got a picture with her. She is SO SO short in person. Once gates finally opened, we met Carly Patterson, and did the whole makeover booth. We finally sat and watched warm ups!

It was so much fun! We enjoyed it, and it goes by so quick. I can't wait for night 2. We waited outside after the meeting, and I got a picture with Hundley, Gowey, Skaggs, and Polina. Also, Nastia walked right out, and NO ONE noticed her. I had to do a double take. I quietly walked away, and got a picture with her. I was nervous asking, because I wasn't sure if it was her or not. She was all done up. :p

Experience at Nationals