...and their goodbye letter is TRASH.
Good riddance.
AOGC Closing
Good riddance.
lundi 5 novembre 2018
dimanche 4 novembre 2018
Scoring Systems
Looking at the numbers awarded this year, I think the scoring system actually did a good job balancing out Difficulty vs. Execution. You couldn't win medals with Great Execution by itself if your difficulty was significantly lower, but if your difficulty was only slightly higher, it couldn't carry you if you had execution mistakes.
The top 6 AA medalists ranked by D-score:
1. Biles: 25.4
2. De Jesus Dos Santos: 22.7
3. Melnikova: 22.6
4. Hurd: 22.3
5. Murakami: 22.0
6. Derwael: 21.3
The top 5 AA medalists ranked by E-score:
1. Derwael: 34.399
2. Murakami: 33.798
3. Hurd: 33.432
4. Melnikova: 33.198
5. De Jesus Dos Santos: 32.899
6. Biles: 32.191
Interesting that the rankings are completely opposite of eachother:
Biles: 1st in D, 6th in E
De Jesus Dos Santos: 2nd in D, 5 in E
Melnikova: 3rd in D, 4th in E
Hurd: 4th in D, 3rd in E
Murakami: 5th in D, 2nd in E
Derwael: 6th in D, 1st in E
E-score enthusiasts should actually be encouraged to see the final rankings primarily give an edge to those with higher E-scores. The two exceptions are Biles and Derwael. But I don't think that's a bad thing. Derwael's place shows that you DO need difficulty. That if it's significantly lower, it will hold you back, BUT that great Execution will keep you close enough to factor into the medals depending on how your higher-D competitors do that day.
And Biles placement just shows something that is always going to be a possibility in an additive system. Yes, her E-score was 1.5-2.0 lower than everyone else, but her D-score was 2.7 more than DJDS and 4.1 over Derwael. There was no way Derwael was going to make up 4 points just by execution. DJDS however, with her higher D, could have come close to Biles if she executed the way Derwael did.
Don't know how much sense that all made. I just think that for the most part, both D and E were valued well in relation to each other in this competition. I cannot think of any scoring system, other than the 10.0 that would prevent an athlete like Biles from winning with falls. So while I can understand those who simply want the 10.0 back, I don't think it makes sense to NOT want the 10.0 but also say an athlete should never be able to win with major errors.
Because I don't think we can have it both ways. Winning with errors will always be a possibility without the 10.0, but even in this system, winning with Biles' errors is going to be rare. Biles is just a rare gymnast. And, as I pointed out with DJDS, other athletes COULD have won this competition with superb execution and just a little more difficulty. But anyway, in general, the scoring looked like it worked pretty well.
Scoring Systems
The top 6 AA medalists ranked by D-score:
1. Biles: 25.4
2. De Jesus Dos Santos: 22.7
3. Melnikova: 22.6
4. Hurd: 22.3
5. Murakami: 22.0
6. Derwael: 21.3
The top 5 AA medalists ranked by E-score:
1. Derwael: 34.399
2. Murakami: 33.798
3. Hurd: 33.432
4. Melnikova: 33.198
5. De Jesus Dos Santos: 32.899
6. Biles: 32.191
Interesting that the rankings are completely opposite of eachother:
Biles: 1st in D, 6th in E
De Jesus Dos Santos: 2nd in D, 5 in E
Melnikova: 3rd in D, 4th in E
Hurd: 4th in D, 3rd in E
Murakami: 5th in D, 2nd in E
Derwael: 6th in D, 1st in E
E-score enthusiasts should actually be encouraged to see the final rankings primarily give an edge to those with higher E-scores. The two exceptions are Biles and Derwael. But I don't think that's a bad thing. Derwael's place shows that you DO need difficulty. That if it's significantly lower, it will hold you back, BUT that great Execution will keep you close enough to factor into the medals depending on how your higher-D competitors do that day.
And Biles placement just shows something that is always going to be a possibility in an additive system. Yes, her E-score was 1.5-2.0 lower than everyone else, but her D-score was 2.7 more than DJDS and 4.1 over Derwael. There was no way Derwael was going to make up 4 points just by execution. DJDS however, with her higher D, could have come close to Biles if she executed the way Derwael did.
Don't know how much sense that all made. I just think that for the most part, both D and E were valued well in relation to each other in this competition. I cannot think of any scoring system, other than the 10.0 that would prevent an athlete like Biles from winning with falls. So while I can understand those who simply want the 10.0 back, I don't think it makes sense to NOT want the 10.0 but also say an athlete should never be able to win with major errors.
Because I don't think we can have it both ways. Winning with errors will always be a possibility without the 10.0, but even in this system, winning with Biles' errors is going to be rare. Biles is just a rare gymnast. And, as I pointed out with DJDS, other athletes COULD have won this competition with superb execution and just a little more difficulty. But anyway, in general, the scoring looked like it worked pretty well.
samedi 3 novembre 2018
2018 Worlds Doha - Conclusions & Best Moments
So Worlds is over for another year... :(
I'm going to have massive Post Worlds Depression over the next few days... So thought it might be a good idea to come up with this summary thread to keep some of the buzz going...
Feel free to post some of your Favourite Moments and your own thoughts / conclusions of the event...
Firstly! I think the most important thing to acknowledge is how few injuries their were this year compared to last year! :)
From memory there was only one withdrawal in the whole competition (Rene Cournoyer MAG AA)...? Which is amazing compared to last year where there were so many injuries obtained during competition / at Worlds.
I know Simakova/Sugihara were both injured to some extent, but that was mostly before competition from what I can tell...
But overall... I am very happy for the lack of an injury report!
Simone is obviously Simone.... But I think my gymnast of the meet is Artur Dalaloyan!
So happy for him to have such a great meet after how things went in the Men's Team Final... He was very upset, but I am very glad he has had the event he had so he can leave Doha very happy!
Beyond that... How does everyone feel about all the tiebreaks? It just seemed there were so many this championships!
Champions List!
MAG Team - China
MAG AA - Artur Dalaloyan
MAG FX - Artur Dalaloyan
MAG PH - Xiao Ruoteng
MAG SR - Eleftherios Petrounias
MAG VR - Ri Se Gwang
MAG PB - Zou Jingyuan
MAG HB - Epke Zonderland
WAG Team - USA
WAG AA - Simone Biles
WAG VT - Simone Biles
WAG UB - Nina Derwael
WAG BB - Liu Tingting
WAG FX - Simone Biles
2018 Worlds Doha - Conclusions & Best Moments
I'm going to have massive Post Worlds Depression over the next few days... So thought it might be a good idea to come up with this summary thread to keep some of the buzz going...
Feel free to post some of your Favourite Moments and your own thoughts / conclusions of the event...
Firstly! I think the most important thing to acknowledge is how few injuries their were this year compared to last year! :)
From memory there was only one withdrawal in the whole competition (Rene Cournoyer MAG AA)...? Which is amazing compared to last year where there were so many injuries obtained during competition / at Worlds.
I know Simakova/Sugihara were both injured to some extent, but that was mostly before competition from what I can tell...
But overall... I am very happy for the lack of an injury report!
Simone is obviously Simone.... But I think my gymnast of the meet is Artur Dalaloyan!
So happy for him to have such a great meet after how things went in the Men's Team Final... He was very upset, but I am very glad he has had the event he had so he can leave Doha very happy!
Beyond that... How does everyone feel about all the tiebreaks? It just seemed there were so many this championships!
Champions List!
MAG Team - China
MAG AA - Artur Dalaloyan
MAG FX - Artur Dalaloyan
MAG PH - Xiao Ruoteng
MAG SR - Eleftherios Petrounias
MAG VR - Ri Se Gwang
MAG PB - Zou Jingyuan
MAG HB - Epke Zonderland
WAG Team - USA
WAG AA - Simone Biles
WAG VT - Simone Biles
WAG UB - Nina Derwael
WAG BB - Liu Tingting
WAG FX - Simone Biles
2018 Worlds - Video links/FIG Channel/BBC feed etc
HI
Does anyone know where the BBC feed is if it's available thanks?
FIG is on youtube FIG Channel.
What's NBC like this year? Any improvement?
2018 Worlds - Video links/FIG Channel/BBC feed etc
Does anyone know where the BBC feed is if it's available thanks?
FIG is on youtube FIG Channel.
What's NBC like this year? Any improvement?
2018 Worlds Doha - Event Final Day 2
MAG VT
206 CUNNINGHAM Dominick GBR
231 SHEK Wai Hung HKG
334 NAGORNYY Nikita RUS
319 RI Se Gwang PRK
107 DAVTYAN Artur ARM
144 SOUZA Caio BRA
269 SHIRAI Kenzo JPN
331 DALALOYAN Artur RUS
WAG BB
756 BILES Simone USA
538 BLACK Elsabeth CAN
551 ZHANG Jin CHN
523 DERWAEL Nina BEL
543 PADURARIU Anne-Marie CAN
757 EAKER Kara USA
676 WEVERS Sanne NED
548 LIU Tingting CHN
MAG PB
378 MIKULAK Samuel USA
155 LIN Chaopan CHN
161 CALVO MORENO Jossimar Orlando COL
330 BELYAVSKIY David RUS
376 VERNIAIEV Oleg UKR
159 ZOU Jingyuan CHN
216 DAUSER Lukas GER
331 DALALOYAN Artur RUS
WAG FX
593 de JESUS dos SANTOS Melanie FRA
536 SARAIVA Flavia BRA
540 MOORS Brooklyn CAN
647 MURAKAMI Mai JPN
713 MELNIKOVA Angelina RUS
756 BILES Simone USA
758 HURD Morgan USA
711 AKHAIMOVA Liliia RUS
MAG HB
361 TANG Chia-Hung TPE
300 ZONDERLAND Epke NED
378 MIKULAK Samuel USA
157 XIAO Ruoteng CHN
169 SRBIC Tin CRO
154 DENG Shudi CHN
273 UCHIMURA Kohei JPN
331 DALALOYAN Artur RUS
2018 Worlds Doha - Event Final Day 2
206 CUNNINGHAM Dominick GBR
231 SHEK Wai Hung HKG
334 NAGORNYY Nikita RUS
319 RI Se Gwang PRK
107 DAVTYAN Artur ARM
144 SOUZA Caio BRA
269 SHIRAI Kenzo JPN
331 DALALOYAN Artur RUS
WAG BB
756 BILES Simone USA
538 BLACK Elsabeth CAN
551 ZHANG Jin CHN
523 DERWAEL Nina BEL
543 PADURARIU Anne-Marie CAN
757 EAKER Kara USA
676 WEVERS Sanne NED
548 LIU Tingting CHN
MAG PB
378 MIKULAK Samuel USA
155 LIN Chaopan CHN
161 CALVO MORENO Jossimar Orlando COL
330 BELYAVSKIY David RUS
376 VERNIAIEV Oleg UKR
159 ZOU Jingyuan CHN
216 DAUSER Lukas GER
331 DALALOYAN Artur RUS
WAG FX
593 de JESUS dos SANTOS Melanie FRA
536 SARAIVA Flavia BRA
540 MOORS Brooklyn CAN
647 MURAKAMI Mai JPN
713 MELNIKOVA Angelina RUS
756 BILES Simone USA
758 HURD Morgan USA
711 AKHAIMOVA Liliia RUS
MAG HB
361 TANG Chia-Hung TPE
300 ZONDERLAND Epke NED
378 MIKULAK Samuel USA
157 XIAO Ruoteng CHN
169 SRBIC Tin CRO
154 DENG Shudi CHN
273 UCHIMURA Kohei JPN
331 DALALOYAN Artur RUS
vendredi 2 novembre 2018
2018 Worlds Doha - Event Final Day 1
Day 1 Event Finals about to begin!
MAG FX
380 MOLDAUER Yul USA
269 SHIRAI Kenzo JPN
249 DOLGOPYAT Artem ISR
369 ONDER Ahmet TUR
378 MIKULAK Samuel USA
268 KAYA Kazuma JPN
334 NAGORNYY Nikita RUS
313 YULO Carlos Edriel PHI
331 DALALOYAN Artur RUS
WAG VT
699 PYON Rye Yong PRK
538 BLACK Elsabeth CAN
756 BILES Simone USA
670 MORENO Alexa MEX
657 YEO Seojeong KOR
549 LIU Jinru CHN
541 OLSEN Shallon CAN
762 CHUSOVITINA Oksana UZB
MAG PH
277 KURBANOV Nariman KAZ
204 TOMMASONE Cyril FRA
330 BELYAVSKIY David RUS
157 XIAO Ruoteng CHN
378 MIKULAK Samuel USA
359 LEE Chih Kai TPE
334 NAGORNYY Nikita RUS
209 WHITLOCK Max GBR
WAG UB
595 DOWNIE Rebecca GBR
758 HURD Morgan USA
550 LUO Huan CHN
606 SEITZ Elisabeth GER
523 DERWAEL Nina BEL
736 ADLERTEG Jonna SWE
756 BILES Simone USA
714 MUSTAFINA Aliia RUS
MAG SR
226 PETROUNIAS Eleftherios GRE
374 RADIVILOV Igor UKR
111 TOVMASYAN Artur ARM
108 DAVTYAN Vahagn ARM
127 SIMONOV Nikita AZE
334 NAGORNYY Nikita RUS
257 LODADIO Marco ITA
145 ZANETTI Arthur BRA
R1 GOOSSENS
2018 Worlds Doha - Event Final Day 1
MAG FX
380 MOLDAUER Yul USA
269 SHIRAI Kenzo JPN
249 DOLGOPYAT Artem ISR
369 ONDER Ahmet TUR
378 MIKULAK Samuel USA
268 KAYA Kazuma JPN
334 NAGORNYY Nikita RUS
313 YULO Carlos Edriel PHI
331 DALALOYAN Artur RUS
WAG VT
699 PYON Rye Yong PRK
538 BLACK Elsabeth CAN
756 BILES Simone USA
670 MORENO Alexa MEX
657 YEO Seojeong KOR
549 LIU Jinru CHN
541 OLSEN Shallon CAN
762 CHUSOVITINA Oksana UZB
MAG PH
277 KURBANOV Nariman KAZ
204 TOMMASONE Cyril FRA
330 BELYAVSKIY David RUS
157 XIAO Ruoteng CHN
378 MIKULAK Samuel USA
359 LEE Chih Kai TPE
334 NAGORNYY Nikita RUS
209 WHITLOCK Max GBR
WAG UB
595 DOWNIE Rebecca GBR
758 HURD Morgan USA
550 LUO Huan CHN
606 SEITZ Elisabeth GER
523 DERWAEL Nina BEL
736 ADLERTEG Jonna SWE
756 BILES Simone USA
714 MUSTAFINA Aliia RUS
MAG SR
226 PETROUNIAS Eleftherios GRE
374 RADIVILOV Igor UKR
111 TOVMASYAN Artur ARM
108 DAVTYAN Vahagn ARM
127 SIMONOV Nikita AZE
334 NAGORNYY Nikita RUS
257 LODADIO Marco ITA
145 ZANETTI Arthur BRA
R1 GOOSSENS
jeudi 1 novembre 2018
2018 Worlds Doha - WAG AA Final
Women's AA Final will be starting Soon... :D
Gymnast order for Rotation 1:
Vault
MURAKAMI Mai JPN
HURD Morgan USA
BILES Simone USA
BLACK Elsabeth CAN
MELNIKOVA Angelina RUS
DERWAEL Nina BEL
Uneven Bars
SARAIVA Flavia BRA
LUO Huan CHN
de JESUS dos SANTOS Melanie FRA
CHEN Yile CHN
ALEKSEEVA Irina RUS
DOWNIE Elissa GBR
Balance Beam
VISSER Naomi NED
SIMM Kelly GBR
TERAMOTO Asuka JPN
BARBOSA Jade BRA
GOLGOTA Denisa ROU
SEITZ Elisabeth GER
Floor Exercise
KOVACS Zsofia HUN
MORI Lara ITA
MOORS Brooklyn CAN
KLINCKAERT Axelle BEL
PEREZ Ana ESP
CHARPY Lorette FRA
2018 Worlds Doha - WAG AA Final
Gymnast order for Rotation 1:
Vault
MURAKAMI Mai JPN
HURD Morgan USA
BILES Simone USA
BLACK Elsabeth CAN
MELNIKOVA Angelina RUS
DERWAEL Nina BEL
Uneven Bars
SARAIVA Flavia BRA
LUO Huan CHN
de JESUS dos SANTOS Melanie FRA
CHEN Yile CHN
ALEKSEEVA Irina RUS
DOWNIE Elissa GBR
Balance Beam
VISSER Naomi NED
SIMM Kelly GBR
TERAMOTO Asuka JPN
BARBOSA Jade BRA
GOLGOTA Denisa ROU
SEITZ Elisabeth GER
Floor Exercise
KOVACS Zsofia HUN
MORI Lara ITA
MOORS Brooklyn CAN
KLINCKAERT Axelle BEL
PEREZ Ana ESP
CHARPY Lorette FRA
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