lundi 14 mars 2016

2016 Jesolo Trophy

I don't think we have a thread for this yet.

Anyway, the US girls are leaving for Italy today. Chellsie Memmel is going as a judge!

Meanwhile, the Brazilians are already there.



Rebeca Andrade made it, so yay!

Loving Alexadrov's grumpy, Russian face.

And how hilarious is Flavia's oversize jacket?
2016 Jesolo Trophy

Podkopayeva vs Shushunova vs Liukin vs Miller

How do these 4 particular gymnasts rank against each other all time. My order would be:

1. Shushunova
2. Miller
3. Podkopayeva
4. Liukin

Although I could also possibly see: 1. Miller, 2. Shushunova, 3. Podkopayeva, 4. Liukin or also 1. Shushunova, 2. Podkopayeva, 3. Miller, 4. Liukin

I have no doubts Liukin ranks the lowest in history of those 4 for myself personally. I could see a case for Miller either being above Shushunova or below Podkopayeva, but really none for Podkopayeva being over Shushunova unless one really values artistic impact heavily.
Podkopayeva vs Shushunova vs Liukin vs Miller

vendredi 11 mars 2016

2004 Olympic Champion Naoya Tsukahara Retires

http://ift.tt/24W20e7

Aw, this is a little sad because I grew up watching him. Naoya Tsukahara has decided to retire for good after not being selected for the Rio Test Event.

He competed at three Olympics for Japan (1996, 2000, 2004) and was part of the 2004 team that won team gold for the first time since 1976. He became an Australian citizen in 2012 and competed for Australia at the 2014 Commonwealth Games and World Championships 2013-2015.

At least he managed to get three eponymous skills on rings in the CoP during the Aussie portion of his career.
2004 Olympic Champion Naoya Tsukahara Retires

Ostapenko Interview

Kylan on TAAF translated an interview with Ostapenko. He said Kylie Dickson should/would represent BLR at the test event. He sees videos of her work often and says she has improved quite a bit since Glasgow. He also said that none of the BLR gymnasts came close to what the two Americans had to offer. I can't post links with this laptop, but surely I'm not the only one here on TAAF.
Ostapenko Interview

If Isabela Onyshko wins in Rio...

What do we think? How great of a gymnast does that make her? Best Canadian of all time? Does she surpass Elfi?
If Isabela Onyshko wins in Rio...

jeudi 10 mars 2016

If Gabby Douglas wins in Rio...

Hear me out.

If I were a betting person, I'd have no safer bet than putting money on Simone winning the AA in Rio. It's seems like it's been her story for a long time; everything building up to this. I really think that she will come out on top this summer.

However.

Gabby has been setting herself up as the one who is chasing Simone this year. I don't think she will be able to beat Simone on Simone's average good day, but if Simone had issues, Gabby would be the one to go above her, not Iordache. Gabby has the ability to put up some really solid gymnastics that any other year would have her on top of the podium.

So let's say Simone has a brain fart and pulls a Maroney, and suddenly Douglas is two-time Olympic champion by default.

How would that affect your view of her legacy? Does that elevate her to the rank of Greatest US gymnast ever and greatest gymnast of the modern era? Does the fact that she is defending champion add legitimacy to a win that people would otherwise sort of "pass off" much like most people don't think about Izbasa winning vault in London, only that Maroney didn't. Gabby has had a VERY short senior elite career; just four years over two quads. She's proved that she's no flash in the pan, but would winning the AA twice do what she needs to erase any lingering doubt about her place in the history books as THE greatest American gymnast of all time?

Disclaimer: I am not a Douglas uber nor hater; I am ambivalent. It was just recently pointed out to me that Douglas is setting herself up to be the #2 lock in Rio, which means if Simone has a bad day, which isn't impossible, she has a very decent chance at being #1 yet again.
If Gabby Douglas wins in Rio...

Running Tally of USA D-scores heading into Rio

Would people be interested in a thread where we keep track of D-scores for the US gymnasts for this year since we know the olympic selection will be very difficult? Would love a master thread that compares the top gymnasts of the other countries, but we have nowhere near the resources that we have for the USA gymnasts here in the USA.

I'd like to update this as the gymnasts compete more during the year. I want to make it realistic, so I don't want it to merely be planned D-scores, but more so skills and connections that have been competed and credited. Once they add in difficulty in competition, I'll update their D-scores. For a new routine, we can do the routine breakdowns. Let me know if I make mistakes, or if my terminology is off (particularly on dance skills).

So far for this year, we've seen Gabby Douglas, Maggie Nichols, and Madison Kocian. After Jesolo and Pac Rims we should have D-scores for most of the top contenders.

Current Standings:

1. Douglas = 5.8 + 6.4 + 6.5 + 6.0 = 24.7
2. Nichols = 5.8 + 6.0 + 6.3 + 6.3 = 24.4
3. Kocian = 0 + 6.6 + 6.3 + 0 = 12.9

New Routines

Vault

We saw DTYs from both Gabby and Maggie at the American Cup. Maggie will most likely get back her amanar, but we've yet to see if Gabby will be able to bring hers back.
Douglas: 5.8
Nichols: 5.8

Bars

Gabby added the Chow 1/2 at the American Cup, planned to connect but didn't, so I won't give her the CV until we see her compete it in combination:

Clear pike 1/1 (E) + Piked Tkatchev (E) + Pak (D) CV = 0.3
Clear pike 1/2 (D) + Endo 1/2 in el grip (D) + Stalder circle (C) + Chow 1/2 (E) CV = 0.1
Clear pike (D)
DLO (D)

Skills: EEEDDDDD = 3.5
CV: 0.4
EGR: 2.5
D-score: 6.4 (6.5 with Chow 1/2 connection)

Maggie showed her same routine from last year at the American Cup, missed the van leeuwen connection but we've seen her do it many times:

Toe-on 1/1 (D) + Maloney (D) + Pak (D) + Van Leeuwen (E) CV = 0.4
Toe-on (C) + Toe-on 1/2 (C) + Jaeger (D)
DLO (D)

Skills: EDDDDDCC = 3.1
CV: 0.4
EGR: 2.5
D-score: 6.0

Madison competed her same bar routine from last year's Worlds at the WOGA Classic:

Clear pike 1/1 (E)
Komova I (E) + Pak (D) + Chow 1/2 (E) CV = 0.4
Clear pike 1/2 (D) + Jaeger (D) CV = 0.1
Stalder circle (C) + Stalder 1/1 (D) + Full-in (D) CV = 0.1

Skills: EEEDDDDD = 3.5
CV: 0.6
EGR: 2.5
D-score: 6.6

Beam

Gabby competed a routine at the American Cup similar to last year's (switch ring most likely wasn't credited but we know shes gotten credit before):

Piked front (E) + Split jump (A) CV = 0.1
Flic-flac (B) + Layout Step out (C)
Standing full (F)
Switch leap (C) + Switch 1/2 (D) CV = 0.1
Punch front (D)
Single L-turn (C)
Switch Ring (E)
Front aerial (D) + Split jump (A) + Pike jump (A) CV = 0.1
Flic-flac (B) + Back handspring (B) + Double Pike (E) CV = 0.1

Acro: FEEDD = 2.4
Dance: EDC = 1.2
CV: 0.4
EGR: 2.5
D-score: 6.5

Maggie showed some upgrades on beam at the American Cup:

Wolf 2 1/2 (E)
Wolf double (D)
Front aerial (D) + Split jump (A) + Sissone (A) CV = 0.1
Side Somi (D)
Wolf jump (A) + Punch front (D) CV = 0.1
Aerial cartwheel (D)
Switch ring (E)
Flic-flac (B) + Layout Step out (C)
Switch leap (C) + Back tuck (C) CV = 0.1
Double Pike (E)

Acro: EDDDD = 2.1
Dance: EED = 1.4
CV: 0.3
EGR: 2.5
D-score: 6.3

Madison also showed upgrades at the WOGA classic (I've rarely seen her actually connect her aerial to a sheep jump if ever, so I won't credit her for it yet):

Arabian (F)
Switch ring (E)
Flic-flac (B) + Layout Step out (C) + Layout Step out (C) CV = 0.2
Front aerial (D)
Sheep jump (D)
Aerial Cartwheel (D) + Split jump (A) + Sissone (A) CV = 0.1
Full turn (A)
Switch leap (C) + Back tuck (C) CV = 0.1
Double pike (E)

Acro: FEDDC = 2.2
Dance: EDC = 1.2
CV: 0.4
EGR: 2.5
D-score: 6.3

Floor

Gabby competed basically her same routine at the American Cup from last year (not sure she's ever been credited with the Ferrari so not giving it to her yet):

Double L-turn (D) + Single L-turn (B) CV = 0.1
Double Arabian (E) + Stag Jump (A) CV = 0.1
Full-in (E)
Switch ring (C) + Gogean (D)
Memmel (D)
Double pike (D)
Split leap 1/1 (C) (attempting Ferrari (D))
Double tuck (D)

Acro: EEDD = 1.8
Dance: DDDC = 1.5
CV: 0.2
EGR: 2.5
D-score: 6.0 (6.1 with Ferrari)

Maggie performed her new floor routine at the American Cup:

Double double (H)
Full-in (E)
Switch ring (C) + Switch leap 1/1 (D)
Full-in pike (E)
Gogean (D)
Triple wolf turn (E)
Double tuck (D)

Acro: HEED = 2.2
Dance: EDDC = 1.6
CV: 0.0
EGR: 2.5
D-score: 6.3
Running Tally of USA D-scores heading into Rio