mardi 30 janvier 2018

Birmingham World Cup - Mar 21-22

BG just divulged the names of the Brirish gymnasts participating:

WAG: Ellie Downie and Claudia Fragapane
MAG: Nile Wilson and James Hall

PS: This was announced on a facebook live via the BG account featuring Nile Wilson. He says the main objectives for BG this year are the Birmingham cup in March, the commonwealth games in April, Euros in Glasgow this August and Worlds in October to start the Olympic qualification process.
Birmingham World Cup - Mar 21-22

Stuttgart World Cup, March 16-18

AA Competition (FIG World Cup)

WAG
Jin Zhang (China)
Georgia-Mae Fenton (GB)
Elisabeth Seitz (Germany)
Sarah Voss (Germany)
Nagi Kajita (Japan)
Anne-Marie Padurariu (Canada)
Naomi Visser (Netherlands)
Angelina Melnikova (Russia) -- Again :rolleyes:
Jordan Chiles (USA)

Defending champion Tabea Alt is out with a shoulder injury for eight weeks.


MAG
Wei Sun (China)
Daniel Purvis (GB)
Marcel Nguyen (Germany)
Philipp Herder (Germany)
Yusuke Tanaka (Japan)
Frank Rijken (Netherlands)
David Belyavskiy (Russia)
Petro Pakhniuk (Ukraine)
Akash Modi (USA)



Team Challenge

WAG
1. Belgium
2. Germany I
3. Germany II
4. Japan
5. Netherlands
6. Norway
7. Russia
8. Switzerland
9. Spain

MAG
1. Belgium
2. Brazil
3. Germany I
4. Germany II
5. Great Britain
6. Israel
7. Italy
8. Japan
9. Norway
10. Austria
11. Russia
12. Sweden
13. Spain
14. Turkey
15. Ukraine
16. Cyprus
Stuttgart World Cup, March 16-18

vendredi 26 janvier 2018

Mattie Larson

Hi, everyone.

I haven't posted in a long, long time. I took a break from following gymnastics. But like everyone else, I have followed the Nassar case. Pretty much everything that could be said about this tragedy has already been said, but there is one person about whom I feel we cannot say enough - Mattie.

I am just gutted for her, or at least for the person she was back then. Thankfully, it sounds like she has come a long way since leaving elite. But my heart still breaks for her. I feel so badly that she was suffering so much while we were sitting in the stands or in front of the TV admiring her beautiful floor routines.

She, more than any of her teammates who have spoken out, was brave enough to identify specific people at USAG who mistreated her, and how they enabled Larry Nassar. What kills me the most is that, if she had told her story even just two years ago, if she had stood alone, without the support of all these other women, everyone would have maligned her - just like they did to Dominique Moceanu and Jennifer Sey, and Jamie Dantzscher when she first accused Nassar. They would have called her a whiner. They would have accused her of being bitter about the way her elite career ended, or wanting her fifteen minutes of fame. They would have pointed to her performance at 2010 Worlds as an example that she simply wasn't mentally tough enough for the sport.

I am devastated that this revelation of mass sexual abuse had to occur before anyone paid any attention to the other forms of abuse these athletes suffered. I feel so distressed that all this probably had to happen before anyone would have taken Mattie seriously. My heart just aches for her, and I wanted to give her a hug throughout her entire impact statement. I still want to give her a hug!

I find myself wondering if there is anything we can do for her now - other than make the changes she and all the others so rightfully deserve. Any ideas?

Edit: How about an appreciation thread?
Mattie Larson

mercredi 24 janvier 2018

F.I.G. accredited alternates to World Championship Teams?

​​​​​A friend of mine is wondering if anyone can provide names of World Championship Team alternates for a project he is considering. Thank you.

"There is one thing that has been bothering me since 2011 and even more strongly since 2014 when the change was made in the Technical Regulations that corrected the situation, but not retroactively. It is about the status (or a lack thereof) of the official FIG-accredited alternates to the World Championships teams.

In 2014, the FIG started to award WCh team medals to the alternates as well (and to one of the team coaches), which in my opinion was completely fair, as the team format, whether 6-5-4 for preliminaries or 6-3-3, left so much room for tactical choices. A gymnast could have very well been an individual medal contender on certain event, but could have been left out, because some other gymnast, event if not a medal contender, was considered more useful for a team to cover the weaknesses. Also, there was room for tactical plays, that did not necessarily take account the best interests of individual gymnasts.

Case to the point is Wu Liufang in 2011 Tokyo. Her best events were UB and BB, the events that CHN had well covered. Despite being a legitimate contender (at least IMO) on UB, she was left out and He Kexin with international prestige was put in, hoping that in case of good performance, her reputation among the judges would increase her medal chances. She was not convincing during the trainings that I saw either, but still the team leadership decided to trust her. Did not happen. I truly feel for her, as not living up to expectations must have really hurt her. Anyhow, in the statistics, He Kexin is 2011 team bronze medal winner (despite this routine being her only appearance during the competition, the score did not count towards the team total and she was not used in the team final) and Wu Liufang's name appears only on the list of gymnasts' bib numbers. Wu Liufang has been really unfortunate, considering that she was an alternate also a year earlier, in Rotterdam 2010.

During the qualification in Tokyo, she sat maybe 2 metres away from me and was cheering wholeheartedly for her teammates, despite having every reason to be bitter about the (team leadership's) choice. At that point she became my all time favourite Chinese gymnast, because of her unselfish, big heart. (They have been brought up to accept the decisions of the leadership and have no regrets, knowing that they had done everything on their part.) In 2012 she was not as successful any more as she had been in 2010 and 2011. She also had a bad fall on the BB dismount at Chinese Nationals, where she strained her neck muscles. She did not make the cut to London 2012. In November 2012 however, she became an Asian Champion on UB, Huang Huidan taking Silver. After that she posted a comment on Chinese social media: "At least I finally won something." The sad part is, had the rules regarding alternates been different at that time, she would have had already two World Championships Team medals, which she had fully earned, not a bit less than her teammates.

Wu Liufang is not the only unfortunate one who has been the alternate two times, at the time when the alternates did not get any recognition. The same thing in Rotterdam and Tokyo happened to CHN MAG gymnast Guo Weiyang as well, but he at least made it to London 2012 and got the team gold there, whereas for Wu Liufang the Asian Championships UB gold remained her highest title.

I have for long time had in mind to write to the FIG and ask them to consider possibility to somehow give recognition to those unfortunate athletes, but I was not sure enough about the idea to make myself to gather full statistics.

Until recently, Nelli Kim gave an interview to Bolshoi Sport which has been translated to English as well, where she mentioned that a few years ago the FIG made the right decision and started to award medals to the alternates as well. This brought a new life to my idea, but first it would be good to have more or less clear picture about who are all the athletes concerned.

How far do we need to go back in time? Have there been any three time alternates? Or more two time alternates? Has becoming an alternate (without recognition in the results) been the highlight of their career or have they been actual competing members of their teams as well?

I have not much hope people would know. More so because the term alternate is ambiguous. Many do not distinguish between the alternates named by their federation and alternates as described in the FIG rules. But Perhaps someone can answer these questions".
F.I.G. accredited alternates to World Championship Teams?

mardi 23 janvier 2018

Beautiful gymnastics

With all the horror and pain surrounding the Nassar tragedy, I wanted to feel connected to the beauty of the sport so I started watching old videos on Youtube. I came across some absolutely beautiful routines and wanted to share some. Feel free to contribute!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9c5fEb1yvg (Wow! The precision and passion in the dance and those double pikes on a non-spring floor!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mEpbUf3hfs&t=6s (One of the most beautifully choreographed routines I've seen).
Beautiful gymnastics

mercredi 17 janvier 2018

American cup, March 3rd 2018

The nominative registration for this AA meet is out, including:

Hurd, Murakami, Simm, Sanna Veerman, Mao Yi, Seitz, Brooklyn Moors, Fabiane Brito on the women's side.

Moldauer, Shirai, Pakhniuk, Sun Wei, Baretto junior, James Hall, Philipp Herder, Plata Rodriguez on the men's side.


PS: do the proceeds of this meet go to USAG or FIG?
American cup, March 3rd 2018

lundi 15 janvier 2018

Simone Biles Comes Out as a Victim of Nassar, Says It Will Be Hard To Return to Ranch

What took Simone longer than others? Her commitment to Tokyo? Well no more. Her statements blames USAG too. But, she says she will NOT let it affect her comeback.

I thought this deserved a new thread because Simone describes the future.

She mentions "It is impossible difficult to relive these experiences and it breaks my heart even more to think that as I work towards my dream of competing in Tokyo 2020, I will have to continually return to the same training facility where I was abused".

Can USAG and the 'ranch' survive this?

Full statement:

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Link: http://ift.tt/2EHW9Av

Quote:

"Most of you know me as a happy, giggly, and energetic girl. But lately...I've felt a bit broken and the more I try to shut off the voice in my head the louder it screams. I am not afraid to tell my story anymore. I too am one of the many survivors that was sexually abused by Larry Nassar. Please believe me when I say it was a lot harder to first speak those words out loud than it is now to put them on paper. There are many reasons that I have been reluctant to share my story, but I know now it is not my fault.

It is not normal to receive any type of treatment from a trusted team physician and refer to it horrifyingly as the "special" treatment. This behavior is completely unacceptable, disgusting, and abusive, especially coming from someone whom I was TOLD to trust.

For too long I've asked myself, "Was I too naive? was it my fault? I now know the answer to those questions. No. No, it was not my fault. No, I will not and should not carry the guilt that belongs to Larry Nassar, USAG, and others.

It is impossibly difficult to relive these experiences and it breaks my heart even more to think that as I work towards my dream of competing in Tokyo 2020, I will have to continually return to the same training facility where I was abused.

After hearing the brave stories of my friends and other survivors, I know that this horrific experience does not define me. I am much more than this. I am unique, smart, talented, motivated, and passionate. I have promised myself that my story will be much greater than this and I promise all of you that I will never give up. I will compete with all of my heart and soul every time I step into the gym. I love this sport too much and I have never been a quitter. I won't let one man, and the others that enabled him, to steal my love and joy.

We need to know why this was able to take place for so long and to many of us. We need to make sure something like this never happens again.

As I continue to work through the pain, I kindly ask everyone to respect my privacy. This is a process, and one that I need more time to work through.

XO, Simone Biles"

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Simone Biles Comes Out as a Victim of Nassar, Says It Will Be Hard To Return to Ranch

jeudi 4 janvier 2018

Gb teams and results 1980s. Lisa elliot

So found 1987 gb champs on an old vhs....Lisa Elliot was very strong...how come she didn't make 88 team?

Also she is listed at Spelthorne...did they use to do artistic back then?

Are there any lists of British champs results pre 1989? I have some old gymnast magazines after that.

I remember in around 1984 watching a girl on our school do a floor routine who was gb squad...would love to find the name on a list.

Thanks in advance.
Gb teams and results 1980s. Lisa elliot

lundi 1 janvier 2018

Kelli Hill and Great Bars Coaches

Something we haven't really discussed much are great uneven bars coaches. These are coaches that have more than one gymnast with outstanding routines. Kelli Hill is one of my favorites. Here is a post of junior Anya Pilgrim's routine. Despite the fall, the routine is huge and she has Kelli Hill's signature high Tkatchevs. The routines she constructed for Dawes and Elise Ray were great too. Who are your favourites? Does the gymnast make the routine or does the coach create the routine?

https://youtu.be/hjROTDSyA80

https://youtu.be/oCk7OUEyYHw

https://youtu.be/6Lwk3sU3bjs
Kelli Hill and Great Bars Coaches