2017 Worlds Prediction Contest - Ya'll thought I forgot, didn't you!? - 8th Edition

You guys! You didn't think I was gonna forget this, did you? ;)

Welcome to the 8th edition of the IG prediction contest! Nothing new to report this year; we're doing the same as last!

Submit your predictions now!

We're using Google Forms again to submit predictions so visit the links below!

Click HERE to submit your predictions!
Click HERE to view the Response spreadsheet

Reminders for this year:
- I will NOT be accepting ANY forum submissions for predictions as long as the form is working well. If you post your predictions in this thread but do not submit them via the webform, your responses will NOT be entered and recorded.
- PLEASE save a hard copy of your predictions elsewhere in case the spreadsheet goes paflooey. I suggest copying them into this thread, but remember that I will NOT be using them as your official predictions unless something goes wrong (and I will notify everyone if that is the case).
- You CAN edit your predictions after you make them; just make sure to save the "Edit Response" link when you first submit so you can access it later. Your unique link will work up until I close down the ability to edit.

Rules for the actual point tallying are the same as before, which I will quote below:

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The rules are really simple. You post your predictions for the medal podium of each event, plus one alternate per podium.

Points
5 points --- each correct medal prediction
2.5 points --- each correct top 3 prediction, but incorrect medal prediction
.5 point --- if your alternate wins a medal.

For example, in '10 this was my AA prediction:

AA:
1 Musty
2 Bross
3 Aly
Alt: Jiang Yuyuan

The actual result was 1st: Musty, 2nd: Jiang, 3rd Bross. I received 5 points for correctly predicting Musty's medal position, 2.5 points for putting Bross on the podium but in the wrong position, and .5 points for having my alternate Jiang medal, for a total of 8 points. I didn't receive any points for Aly, since she didn't make the podium.

In the case of a tie for a medal, you still only receive points for each correct PLACEMENT. If Kyla and Simone tie in AA and you had them 1-2, you would receive 7.5 points for correctly predicting the gold medalist but incorrectly predicting the silver medalist (which would correctly be no one). If you like to tempt fate, feel free to put ties as your prediction BUT you may not have more than 3 people per podium plus one alternate (i.e. no eight way tie for gold! :p ;) )

Predictions are locked the day after prelims are completed, (before MAG AA starts) with NO EDITING ALLOWED. This gives everyone the best idea of who will be competing for the medals, but does not account for last minute substitutions due to federation swapping or injury. You are not required to predict your podium out of the official start list but may substitute anyone as you see fit; heck, put anyone on there! Do as you please. :)

The contest will run for WAG and MAG, and then one combined for those who submit in both categories. You are free to predict all the events or just a few; whatever you like. :) No deducting points for wrong answers, so why not? ;)

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Predictions will CLOSE at 5pm CST October 5th. You are welcome to make any changes to your predictions up until that point, but not after. Absolutely no editing or substitutions after the closing time will be allowed, so make sure you double and triple check! :)

Looking forward to another fun year!

History:
Originator: Kennedy
2010 Worlds - Winner: Moi! :D
2011 Worlds - WAG Winner: utesrockthehouse / MAG Winner: nlm2183 / Overall: JennFyre
2012 Olympics - WAG Winner: euphrosyna / MAG Winner: schood85 / Overall: schood85
2013 Worlds - WAG Winner: piday / MAG Winner: kochetkovafan / Overall: kochetkovafan
2014 Worlds - WAG Winner: London2012 / MAG Winner: FlippinTitan10 / Overall: kanaevafan
2015 Worlds - WAG Winner: Agags / MAG Winner: Szczecin / Overall: Szczecin
2016 Rio Olympics - WAG Winner: Cinnamon Mockingbird/ MAG Winner: FlippinTitan10/ Overall: FlippinTitan10

2017 Worlds Prediction Contest - Ya'll thought I forgot, didn't you!? - 8th Edition

2017 Worlds - Live Streams

I thought I'd put it all in one thread, so it'll be easier to find.

USAG

They will stream a lot, although only the Podium Training stream will be available worldwide.
http://ift.tt/2fVWc1I

MAG US PT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ0pwlPkGCY
WAG US PT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YSDFKGwP4U

MAG Quali Sub 2 (US): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A78JEWwjj5w
MAG Quali Sub 3 (CHN, JPN, RUS): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7r812oEaK4

WAG Quali Sub 1 (GB): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osqSR-NJVtU
WAG Quali Sub 2 (CAN, RUS): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t75Yux_hm0
WAG Quali Sub 3 (NED, ROM): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP60fkCmlEw
WAG Quali Sub 5 (US, CHN, JPN): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9IjN4qVGYQ

MAG AA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWqnWy_p_MU
WAG AA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZksIwoo5lag

EFs 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5qDqZEEJT0
EFs 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INkfwGneOJo


FIG

They will stream the finals on Youtube (it'll be available in those countries that don't have TV rights).
http://ift.tt/2xPJWtb

"Links to the livestream will be shared on the FIG Facebook and Twitter accounts before the competition begins. If the content is geoblocked, this means a TV channel in your territory has bought the rights"

List of countries that hold rights to broadcast Worlds on TV (aka nations the FIG live stream will not be available in), also shows which local TV station will show it: http://ift.tt/2xQbZsr


Live scoring

FIG: http://ift.tt/2xPJX0d (they also have an app)
Longines: http://ift.tt/1W8QgOc

2017 Worlds - Live Streams

The Olympic Channel

I don't know if this has been mentioned in other threads but if any of y'all have The Olympic Channel on Oct 2nd and 3rd they are having a marathon of Team and All Around Competitions from 1988-2016

The Olympic Channel

2017 World Championships - WAG Podium Training - Sept. 30-Oct. 1

Discussion thread for WAG Podium training (and training in general).

Will add schedule and links later.

2017 World Championships - WAG Podium Training - Sept. 30-Oct. 1

2017 World Championships - MAG Podium Training - Sept. 29-30

Discussion thread for MAG Podium training (and training in general).

September 29
All times local; Montreal is in the Eastern Time Zone

SUBDIVISION 1 - 10:00 am - 1:00 pm
ALG - ARM - BUL - CUB - ECU - GER - GRE - ISL - ISR - JAM - QAT - SWE - TPE - UKR - UZB - VEN - VIE

SUBDIVISION 2 - 1:15 pm - 4:15 pm
ARG - BEL - BLR - CRO - CYP - DEN - EGY - GBR - GUA - HKG - IND - MEX - NOR - SUI - THA - TTO - USA

SUBDIVISION 3 - 4:45 pm - 7:45 pm
AUS - AZE - CAN - CHN - DOM - ESP - FRA - GEO - HUN - JPN - KAZ - LAT - MGL - POR - ROU - RUS - SLO


September 30
SUBDIVISION 4 - 10:00 am - 1:00 pm
AUT - BRA - CHI - COL - CZE - FIN - IRL - ITA - JOR - KOR - LTU - NED - NZL - PER - SRI - SVK - TUR

2017 World Championships - MAG Podium Training - Sept. 29-30

How Are These Physically Possible

The more I look at whipbacks, the more I am convinced that they are like the bumblebee flying - there is NO way they should be possible. When I first heard them described as a back handspring with no hands, I thought "Oh, so a flip." But they actually look like a gymnast is pushing off the air, which is not a possibility. How can they even be done? And I recall someone (Natasha Kelley?) even doing them looking like they are one armed, which is even more bizarre.

Also, the Arabian doubles that go around the side, like Ragan or what I read once with Jamie Dantzscher. How do they work? I've seen Ragan do it and she does look sideways, but again, I can't understand HOW that can happen.

Thanks in advance. And yes, I barely passed physics in school LOL

How Are These Physically Possible

MONTREAL gymnasts (known SV's) + predictions/ wishlist (aka the stan corner...)

With podium training just a week away, do you have any strong wishes or predictions of things that will happen in competition now that we have a clear picture of who is going?

I'll start the first post with an incomplete recap of gymnasts' known SV's. Feel free to complete missing gymnasts' start values and discuss questionable SV's. By all means correct me if I got something wrong and I will edit post.

AUS
Mizzen
Brown
Godwin
Folino

BEL
Derwael: UB 6.3
Herman
Brassart

BRA
Andrade: VT 5.8 + 5.2, UB 6.1, BB 5.4, FX 5.4
Fidelis: UB 4.8, BB between 5.6 and 6.0, FX 5.5

CAN
Rogers: VT 5.4, UB 5.7, BB 5.8, FX 5.2
Moors: FX 5.4
Onyshko: BB 5.4, UB 5.5
Olsen: VT 5.8? + 5.4, FX 5.2

CHN
LTT: VT 5.4, UB 6.0, BB 6.6, FX 5.3
LH: VT 4.6? UB 6.2, BB 6.5
FYL: UB 6.3, BB 6.3,
WY: VT 5.8 + 5.6, (BB 6.2), FX 5.7 (currently with double twist pass)

CUB:
Do we know if it's Ferrera or Videaux going?

Denmark (just kidding)

FRA
MDJDS VT 5.4, UB 5.8, BB 5.9, FX 5.7
Boyer VT 5.4, UB , BB 6.1, FX 5.5
Devillard: VT 5.8 + 5.4
Charpy: UB 5.4, BB 5.8

GBR
Tinkler: FX 5.6
Frags: FX 5.6
Kinsella
Fenton

GER
Alt: VT 5.4, UB 5.8, BB 6.0, FX 5.2
Bui: UB 5.9
Seitz: UB: 6.1 (6.3 with Pak + VL), BB 5.0
Schäffer:

HUN
Kovacs:
Devai: VT 5.4 + 5.2

JAP
Murakami, VT 5.8, UB 5.4, BB 5.8 , FX 6.2 (with Lopez)
Teramoto: VT 5.8, BB 5.8
Miyakawa: VT 5.8 + 5.4, FX 6.2
Sugihara, BB 5.3

ITA
Mori: AA
Berardinelli: AA
Ferrari: BB, FX
Carofiglio: VT

NED
Eythora:
Lieke:
Sanne:
Volleman:

ROM
Iordache: VT 5.4, UB 6.2, BB 6.7, FX 5.5 (5.8 with Silivas, 6.0 with Lopez)
Ponor: BB 6.2 , FX 5.8
(Crisan...)

SUI
Steingruber: big question mark on her SV's
Kaeslin
Diacci
Studer

RUS
Eremina: VT 5.4, UB 6.4 (if LO Jaeger), BB 5.7, FX 5.5 with DLO but pls keep full-in for a 5.4
Melka: VT 5.4, UB 6.1, BB up to 6.0 but yeah... FX 5.7
Paseka: VT 5.8 and 5.2? Possibility of a 6.0 with Cheng?
Ilyankova: UB 6.2

UKR
Hum...

USA
Ragan VT 5.4, UB 6.0, BB 6.2 sans Patterson, FX 5.7
Hurd: VT 5.4, UB 5.6 , BB 5.8, FX 5.5 (REALLY not sure though with her last minute upgrades)
Carey: VT: 5.8 + 5.6, FX 5.8
Locklear: UB 6.0 if inbars are back but until now only 5.5

UZB
Chusovitina: VT 5.8 + 5.2 ?

MONTREAL gymnasts (known SV's) + predictions/ wishlist (aka the stan corner...)

How good a gym is All Olympia in LA these days?

Seems I have not heard anything about them since Maroney in 2012.

Do they have a good crop of juniors, or they've dropped off or what?

What is the atmosphere like there?

How good a gym is All Olympia in LA these days?

Worlds Tickets

So I just started a new job so unfortunately I don't think I'm going to be able to go to Worlds. I have tickets to all the finals including WAG AA. I'm willing to sell them, however looking at the tickets, they have my name and some contact information on them and says that they may require ID or Credit Card validation to use. Anyone know anything about this? Is it just a formality to say that? I'd hate a spot to sit empty when I know it's sold out. If anyone is interested, it's a silver package worth approximately $200 all together for AA and EFs MAG and WAG. Send me a PM. :)

Worlds Tickets

2016 Olympics videos

Ok....probably a really stupid question, but why can't I find any videos of the 2016 Olympics on Youtube? Where can I go to watch them?

2016 Olympics videos

Junior Japan 2017

The first gymnasts have arrived.

Valeria Saifulina has replaced Viktoria Gorbatova.

Some other big names competing:
Ana Padurariu (CAN)
Chen Yile (CHN)
Li Qi (CHN)
Emelie Petz (GER)
Soyoka Hanawa (JPN)
Denisa Golgota (ROU)
Angelina Simakova (RUS)
Maile O'Keefe (USA)
Emma Malabuyo (USA)

Full roster: http://ift.tt/2h7veY5

Junior Japan 2017

Hurricane Irma and Gymnastics Family?

Has anyone heard how people like Jana Bieger, Shayla Worley, and the other Florida members of our gymnastics family are doing?
I know there have been some fairly big clubs in Florida, not to mention the U of Florida Gymnastics Team and it's hard not to feel a little concerned.

Hurricane Irma and Gymnastics Family?

USA & Romanian Line Up Questions

HELP! Does anyone remember the US and Romanian prelims and finals event lineups from London 2012?
Also USA 2015 Team Finals Lineups? and 2016 Prelims and Finals?
I know I wrote it down somewhere but do you think I can find it?<growls>

USA & Romanian Line Up Questions

NCAA Discussion Thread: 2017-2018

I can't believe fall practices are already beginning.

I guess with all the off-season drama of coaching changes, time flies.

When I have a chance, I'll trying to make a list of all the coaching changes.

NCAA Discussion Thread: 2017-2018

NBC Vignette/Feature Music Request

I've been rewatching some old competitions and some of the features/vignettes have music I like. I assume they are from film sound tracks because that's what NBC usually does, but I don't know which ones. Can anyone ID the music from the following:

1997 International Team Championships Dominique Moceanu and Gina Gogean features
1997 USA's Opening and Closing music from both days
1996 Olympic Trials Optional Closing Music
1994 USA's Kerri Strug Feature

NBC Vignette/Feature Music Request

Dominique Moceanu UB question

In Domi's 1997 Nationals bar routine she does a giant half pauses and then does some sort of front full pirouette. On day two she did a second full pirouette after that. Does anyone know the proper names/grips for those skills?

Also in 1998 she did that same half pirouette to opposing full pirouette. What was that called?

21 years of watching the sport and I still can't keep the grips straight. LOL

Dominique Moceanu UB question

Riley FX Music

Does anyone know what Riley McCusker's 2017 floor is and do you have a link to the full length version?

Thanks in advance,

Riley FX Music

2017 Szombathely World Cup

Qualification results

WAG:
http://ift.tt/2xS4Vs5

MAG:
http://ift.tt/2xS1Loi


Impressed to see Jonna Adlerteg back and with a 6.2 D on bars even though she clearly had some problems. Meanwhile Amy Tinkler qualified to all four finals.

2017 Szombathely World Cup

Settle a Debate: 2008

Two things that I often see and fundtamentally disagree:

1) Nastia wasn't a "true" All-Arounder.

Just because she didn't have a high difficulty vault doesn't mean she wasn't an AA.


2) Nastia was gifted a bars score in 2008

If Nastia was gifted on bars, then Shawn was gifted on vault. No way she got that around.

Settle a Debate: 2008

Must see 1983 Worlds link. Beam competitive today!

Wow. Great gymnastics! The beam routines are still competitive for today. Bulgaria is in it's formal glory and some Romanian greats with Mostepanova.

1983 Worlds WAG EF BBC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpAXTdVmMrQ

Must see 1983 Worlds link. Beam competitive today!

Worlds D-Scores Spreadsheet

I made a super incomplete Google Spreadsheet with achieved D-scores for completed routines (podium training or competition) by WAG gymnasts so far in the season. I thought it would be fun to compile the results heading into Worlds especially when Worlds is so open this year.

Please help me fill it out at your own leisure.

Worlds D-Scores Spreadsheet

Varna World Cup - Sep 1-3 | Varna, Bulgaria

All qualification results (go to "Downloads"):
http://ift.tt/2wXZ8F1

Pretty great day for Rebeca Andrade on vault and bars. The Amanar is back!

Varna World Cup - Sep 1-3 | Varna, Bulgaria